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Gov. Brown's link between climate change and wildfires is unsupported, fire experts say
Los Angeles Times ^ | October 19, 2015 | By Paige St. John

Posted on 10/22/2015 3:20:43 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee

The ash of the Rocky fire was still hot when Gov. Jerry Brown strode to a bank of television cameras beside a blackened ridge and, flanked by firefighters, delivered a battle cry against climate change.

The wilderness fire was "a real wake-up call" to reduce the carbon pollution "that is in many respects driving all of this," he said.

"The fires are changing.... The way this fire performed, it's not the way it usually has been. Going in lots of directions, moving fast, even without hot winds."

"It's a new normal," he said in August. "California is burning."

Brown had political reasons for his declaration.

He had just challenged Republican presidential candidates to state their agendas on global warming. He was embroiled in a fight with the oil industry over legislation to slash gasoline use in California. And he is seeking to make a mark on international negotiations on climate change that culminate in Paris in December.

But scientists who study climate change and fire behavior say their work does not show a link between this year's wildfires and global warming, or support Brown's assertion that fires are now unpredictable and unprecedented. There is not enough evidence, they say.

University of Colorado climate change specialist Roger Pielke said Brown is engaging in "noble-cause corruption."

Pielke said it is easier to make a political case for change using immediate and local threats, rather than those on a global scale, especially given the subtleties of climate change research, which features probabilities subject to wide margins of error and contradiction by other findings.

Other experts say there is, in fact, a more immediate threat: a landscape altered by a century of fire suppression, timber cutting and development. . .

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; epa; globalwarminghoax; governormoonbeam; jerrybrown; moonbeam; popefrancis; romancatholicism

1 posted on 10/22/2015 3:20:43 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Tune into Weatherbell and Joe Bastardi if you want the FACTS!


2 posted on 10/22/2015 3:41:58 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

The climate alarm koolade drinkers like Jerry Brown are either cynical bastards or pie-eyed fools.


3 posted on 10/22/2015 4:00:53 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Governor Moonbeam’s link with reality is unsupported as well...


4 posted on 10/22/2015 4:02:13 AM PDT by Salgak (Peace Through Superior Firepower. . . .)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Yes... the very nature of fire itself is changed by global climate change. My God, what have we wrought? Are people in this country seriously that stupid to believe that fires burn hotter or are any different than fire has ever been because of anthropogenic climate change? Wow.


5 posted on 10/22/2015 4:02:51 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

Education has gone way downhill in this country. The answer to your question is yes, people really are that stupid.


6 posted on 10/22/2015 4:21:32 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: Brad from Tennessee
"the governor believes climate change is not regarded with sufficient urgency and should be addressed "on a World War III footing."

Earth to Gov. Moonbeam
Earth to Gov. Moonbeam
Earth to Gov. Moonbeam

There has been no WW III. You haven't got the slightest clue how to fight WW III. Will it be nuclear EMPs from Iran, Russian tanks in Germany, Chinese hordes in San Francisco, or Klingons from outer space??? You have no more ideas about what the WW III response needs to be than you have on how to deal with the climate. Believe me, Gov. Moonbeam, your pathetic reaction to both is irrelevant.

7 posted on 10/22/2015 4:36:45 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age did not end because we ran out of stones)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

If they’re CDF fire people, they’re toast.


8 posted on 10/22/2015 4:58:35 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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To: Brad from Tennessee

If they’re CDF fire people, they’re toast.


9 posted on 10/22/2015 5:01:28 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Gov. Browns’ link between his brain and his mouth is hard to explain.


10 posted on 10/22/2015 6:23:33 AM PDT by JEDI4S (I don't mean to cause trouble...it just happens naturally through the Force!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Fire Change HaPPens!!

Yes, Jerry.. So winds do change,

If you ban wind, what will make wind turbines spin?

Birds hitting them?

Sorry, MoonBeam. You obviously failed science as a kid.


11 posted on 10/22/2015 8:50:45 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (SEMPER FI!! - Monthly Donors Rock!!)
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Like everything in liberal behavior, his remarks are motivated by hate.

12 posted on 10/22/2015 10:54:12 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
If this was a typical protected forest that burned, it's not carbon pollution in general, but wood pollution from all the dead wood building up over time.

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13 posted on 10/22/2015 4:12:15 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Democrats and GOP-e: a difference of degree, not philosophy)
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14 posted on 10/22/2015 4:12:49 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Democrats and GOP-e: a difference of degree, not philosophy)
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