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Republican Voters, in Focus Group, Express Rage at Career Politicians
NY Times ^ | 10-21-2015 | Trip Gabriel

Posted on 10/21/2015 8:48:56 AM PDT by TroutStalker

The anger of Republican primary voters at the political class could have blistered the paint in a conference room during a focus group in Indianapolis.

“We did what we were supposed to do: we wrote the letters and we made the phone calls, and they did not listen,’’ said Marenda Babcock, 60, a freelance writer.

“We’ve lost our voices as constituents,’’ echoed Christopher Berry, 50, who works in agriculture.

Dwight Podgurski, 58, coordinator of a campus ministry, compared Washington to the cesspool depicted in “House of Cards.’’

The voters were part of a focus group convened on Tuesday night by the pollster Peter D. Hart, who asked with some befuddlement why Republicans, who for decades picked presidential nominees with deep governing experience, were throwing the rule out the window. Donald J. Trump, Ben Carson and Carly Fiorina, who between them poll at more than 50 percent, have no elected experience.

“I think we’re just tired of politicians in general,’’ said Shonda Sonnefield, 40, a homemaker. “They don’t keep their word. Their morals are loose. We’re ready for someone who has not been in that world, whether Carly, Ben or Trump.’’

A focus group has no scientific validity. But it can present a multihued snapshot of voters’ attitudes and emotions, and perhaps hint at where the electorate is heading. A group gathered in January in Denver by Mr. Hart, who checks in with voters for the nonpartisan Annenberg Public Policy Center, presciently revealed voters of both parties craving an outsider. That was months before Mr. Trump or Senator Bernie Sanders, Democrat of Vermont, were taken seriously.

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1 posted on 10/21/2015 8:48:56 AM PDT by TroutStalker
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“We’ve lost our voices as constituents..."

And there you have it. The uniparty cares only about their clients.


2 posted on 10/21/2015 8:51:43 AM PDT by 867V309 (Trump: Bull in a RINO Shoppe)
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To: TroutStalker

Good....goood. The base is waking up to the truth.


3 posted on 10/21/2015 8:52:28 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered.)
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To: TroutStalker
Carly Fiorina,

Too bad for the NY Times and the GOPe, voters has seen thur the facade of their Trojan Horse Fiorina.

4 posted on 10/21/2015 8:53:56 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered.)
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To: TroutStalker

And the GOP will ignore this. The establishment would rather lose than actually listen to their knuckle-dragging conservative base.


5 posted on 10/21/2015 8:54:15 AM PDT by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: TroutStalker
It is very interesting what is happening in both the DNC and the RNC.

The DNC have Hillary's coronation and then all the other socialists fighting over first spot.

The RNC has got a real fight going on between principled conservatives who honor the Constitution, and the GOPe who do not know that our country was founded on the sovereignty of the people and are more interested in turning our country into one huge mushroom farm.

What Would Our Founders Do?

6 posted on 10/21/2015 8:57:50 AM PDT by Slyfox (Will no one rid us of this meddlesome president?)
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I think the GOPee base is good at lip service, they'll say anything to win you over...

Well it's to late...WE the Legal Voters Of America are tired of you taking our money, telling one lie after another, giving us promises and then turning around and doing something else; we are tired of the way you treat our Vets and Wounded Warriors; we are tired of how you disrespect our elderly people; we are tired of working 2-3 jobs a day to feed our families; we are tired of the health care you shoved down our throats, but you get yours free;

Yeah I guess you could say we are tired....SICK AND TIRED OF YOU!!!

7 posted on 10/21/2015 8:58:18 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 (I have such happy days, and hope you do too!!!)
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To: brownsfan; MNJohnnie; TroutStalker

One might get the impression that they would lose JUST to spite the conservative base.

I’d like to believe otherwise... but the present construct gives me no reason to.


8 posted on 10/21/2015 8:59:51 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: 867V309

and the tone-deaf GOPe will continue to refuse to listen...


9 posted on 10/21/2015 9:00:51 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: TroutStalker

you say you want a revolution? when all else fails what is left? Our Founders knew the evil of tyranny but I’m sure never imagined the American people would ever choose it over their own liberty


10 posted on 10/21/2015 9:01:14 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: Slyfox

“What Would Our Founders Do? “

ROPE


11 posted on 10/21/2015 9:02:45 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: NFHale
Agreed
12 posted on 10/21/2015 9:03:13 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered.)
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To: TroutStalker

The political class is just now waking up to this? If they didn’t get a sense of our growing hatred of the party establishment in the 2008, 2010, and 2012 elections, they’re not going to get it until we should up on their doorstep with torches, rope, tar and a rail. Insular, condescending, self-serving idiots.


13 posted on 10/21/2015 9:03:27 AM PDT by mikeus_maximus
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To: brownsfan

“”””The establishment would rather lose than actually listen to their knuckle-dragging conservative base.”””

That is ok because I would rather loose than put another dem in a republican spot. Lets face it, it is a dem or a dem when rinos run.


14 posted on 10/21/2015 9:04:33 AM PDT by jimpick
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To: stephenjohnbanker; Slyfox

Tar. Feathers. Rail.


15 posted on 10/21/2015 9:05:51 AM PDT by TroutStalker ("Protect the hypersensitive. Ban everything.")
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To: TroutStalker

Term Limits

One term in office,

TWO terms in Jail.


16 posted on 10/21/2015 9:07:49 AM PDT by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416,Feisty Old Vet !!)
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To: Slyfox

“What Would Our Founders Do?”

They would have jailed and executed the insurrectionists. Then they would have jailed and executed the Crony’s. They would have jailed and executed the media.


17 posted on 10/21/2015 9:10:30 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Jews For Cruz)
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To: MNJohnnie

Truly my FRiends God gaveme a view to my purpose back in 2009of “Turning Peoples Light On”

To awaken them not only in a spiritual sense but from a primitive core level, engagement at all levels..

A person in a depressed state can focus on what they have not what they want...

We must refuse to accept what we are being “Allowed” to have and Vote the Rascals out!

And if they will not leave peacefully, The Framers contemplated that as something that Would arise in the future...

If we were not VIGILANT!

Give that unto Caesar that which is Caesers... Jesus refers to the image on the coin as the decider of Society, and unless there is a better option who changes the face he is Boss

We work for God but while here we obey those above who righteously have been given our Sacred trust.

They have in many cases in fact and principle Violated their Oath of Office and in fact they are participating in the largest criminal offense ever perpetrated upon the Citizens of this Country...

But we go all soft and fuzzy when it comes to making the hard choices and taking the scales from your eyes...

Wake Up America, Today is The First Day of Freedom!

They call us The Peacekeepers of the world....

Wrote this in 2009...

Peacekeeper

It’s all over the news
About the USA
Says the world don’t like us
And how we need to change
If we don’t do something
And do it damn fast
Then the folks whose butts we saved
Say our friendship won’t last

I talked to my friend a patriot
A man who speaks his mind
He is a true American
You know the kind
He likes to wave the flag
Of our country’s he’s damn proud
And when he sings the anthem
He does it right and real loud

He said “Why should I care”
What they have to say
They always lay down
When the bills due to pay
Then we have to ride in
And with our blood save the day
We all came to this country
To do things our own way

Yeah patriot’s American all the way
Likes riding motorcycles and the freedom to say
I own guns for my protection
And it’s my right
So don’t try sneaking in my house
Unless you want a fight

And if you ask him a question
He speaks his mind
I wish there were more like him
Their getting harder to find
He really love’s our country
Of this he’s not shy
He says it with conviction
Look’s you straight in the eye

Some say that he’s a throwback
To another time
I say for their opinion
I won’t give you a dime
He’ll fight for our right to freedom
To his last breath
And if they try to stop him
He will fight to the death

So please wake up America
It’s not too late
To stop all the barbarians
Pushing at the gate
Tell all of our detractors
You reap what you sow
And if you don’t like our country
Then to hell you can go

Yeah Patriot’s American all the way
Likes riding motorcycles and the freedom to say
I own guns for my protection
And it’s my right
So don’t try sneaking in my house
Unless you want a fight

Semper Fi!


18 posted on 10/21/2015 9:10:52 AM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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Asking for a word or phrase to associate with Mrs. Clinton, Mr. Hart elicited the following: “slimy,’’ “traitor,’’ “not trustworthy,’’ “liar’’ and “no thank you.’’

When asked to name the family member Mr. Bush reminded them of, participants said: “ex brother-in-law,’’ “drunk uncle,” “oops brother’’ and “family dog.’’


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19 posted on 10/21/2015 9:13:34 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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