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How Indiana Pizza Shop Responded After Being Tricked Into ‘Catering’ Gay Wedding
CNS News ^ | 10/20/15 | Travis Weber

Posted on 10/20/2015 5:07:34 PM PDT by markomalley

Much of the media today roundly disparage any business-person who even voices his or her religious beliefs regarding same-sex marriage. This is the consistent narrative by which many presumptuously judge small business owners’ (often wedding vendors) motives in affirming their religious convictions as animating their business lives.

Critics reject out of hand their claims that they are simply living out their faith with love and can’t be a part of a wedding ceremony that violates their consciences.

When the owners of Memories Pizza—a small-town pizzeria in Indiana—were posed a hypothetical question about whether they would cater a gay wedding last year, the “intolerance” of their simple response that they would not resulted in a threat to burn down their shop.

They did not answer threats with threats, but continued to calmly explain that they would happily serve gay customers; they just didn’t want to be a part of the wedding. Of course, none of this mattered to those not interested in seeking the facts.

It now appears that a man ordered two pizzas from Memories Pizza, without stating his reasons (as is quite normal when ordering pizza), and brought them back to serve at his same-sex wedding. He recorded the event on video and claimed that Memories “catered” his gay wedding—without knowing it.

While the charade itself is sort of childish, it does hold several lessons for us. Let us first consider that, in response to the video, Memories owner Kevin O’Connor has …

Threatened to burn something down? Nope.

Called someone a bigot? Nope.

He’s actually not really too interested in the actions of his customer after selling him the pizza.

So what’s the point?

It is an undisputed fact that Memories Pizza served a man regardless of his sexual relationships. Its owners did not deny him service. They didn’t “turn him away.” They didn’t quiz the man when he came in, asking whether he identified as a homosexual or what he would use the pizza for.

Those truly seeking to understand the conflicts in the “wedding vendor cases” should study what happened here, for they will see that no one involved is interested in simply turning away customers based on how they identify sexually.

People are interested in exercising the teachings of their faith regarding marriage, and in continuing to live quiet and peaceful lives in harmony with their communities, as they have been doing for years. They haven’t sought a fight; it has come to them.

What else can we learn?

It’s important to note that Kevin O’Connor did not respond in an apoplectic manner with claims of “my conscience was violated here!” Conscience is violated not merely by the occurrence of events; there must be knowledge of what one is getting oneself into or being forced to participate in. It must be emphasized that the wedding vendors around the country who are asserting their religious freedom are doing so because they are knowingly being forced to participate in an act that violates their conscience, not because a customer disagrees with them on matters of sexuality.

Even then, Kevin would have had no problem serving the customer the pizzas even if he knew who he was. “We weren’t catering to their wedding,” Kevin said. “They were picking [pizzas] up.” Kevin has no problem with serving a person in his shop, whether or not that person identifies as gay.

For those who truly care to understand what the wedding vendors are seeking in these cases, there is an important lesson here. Kevin O’Connor’s indifference in this matter can be contrasted with his kind but firm refusal to participate in a same-sex wedding when asked earlier this year.

He is not asking to “turn away” people. He is only asking that he not be forced to violate his conscience by knowingly participating in a wedding ceremony that runs counter to his religious beliefs. Memories Pizza’s unproblematic “catering” of the same-sex wedding in this case shows as much. Those who sincerely care to understand more about such religious freedom claims can learn from Kevin’s actions, which are an important teaching moment on the role of conscience in the “wedding vendor cases” and beyond.

The small business owners involved in these matters are not asking for a “blank check” to do whatever they want. They are advancing sincere conscience claims against being forced to knowingly use their businesses for certain ends, and they are often happy to forgo the lost income and even refer the potential customers to another business where they can find what they need.

As long as we live in a democracy, people will have differing views on moral questions. The model of tolerance displayed by Kevin O’Connor is as good as any for how we can live together with those differences.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: homofascism; homosexualagenda
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1 posted on 10/20/2015 5:07:34 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

boy, gay people are A.......s. Hmm, that could lead to all kinds of untoward comments.


2 posted on 10/20/2015 5:10:34 PM PDT by dp0622
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To: markomalley

The alias used to order the pizza was Ben Dover.


3 posted on 10/20/2015 5:15:08 PM PDT by jessduntno (The mind of a liberal...deceit, desire for control, greed, contradiction and fueled by hate.)
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To: dp0622

That’s why I tend to stick to a more “clinical” description: phags are degenerates. ;’)


4 posted on 10/20/2015 5:15:43 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: jessduntno

Amanda Huginkis.


5 posted on 10/20/2015 5:16:30 PM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: rockrr

how come we dont see people who like to be kicked in their privates or have sex with cows running around asking for “equal rights” and equality blah blah blah.

Or will we soon?


6 posted on 10/20/2015 5:19:20 PM PDT by dp0622
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To: markomalley

Nobody in my trailer park has even thought of catering a wedding reception with pizza.


7 posted on 10/20/2015 5:19:36 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (This space for rent.)
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To: markomalley

The interesting thing here, for me, is it shows how the Left is incapable of distinguising between discrimination based on sexual orientation and the refusal to actively participate in something that violates ones conscience.

And Conservatives are the ones accused of being absolutist and incapable of seeing nuance.


8 posted on 10/20/2015 5:20:57 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: markomalley

Revelation 22:14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.
15 But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie.

Nelson, Thomas (2009-02-18). Holy Bible, New King James Version (NKJV) (p. 1202). Thomas Nelson. Kindle Edition.

Guess these gay folks will be on the outside of the New Jerusalem for several reasons.


9 posted on 10/20/2015 5:23:18 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: dp0622

The Degenerate Lobby got themselves in a snit whenever anyone suggested the proverbial “slippery slope” effect that was inevitable if they succeeded in destroying marriage. It’s here now and every variety of pervert and weirdo is coming out from under their rocks. If you have seen it (and heard it whine) just wait a tick - you will soon enough.


10 posted on 10/20/2015 5:24:20 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: markomalley

Ordering some carry-out and bring it to your...event is not catering.


11 posted on 10/20/2015 5:24:56 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: markomalley

To bad the sausages on that pizza were not used previously. After all, they will be seen again by that sordid group.


12 posted on 10/20/2015 5:26:33 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

I helped at a reception for a doctor’s daughter: pizza, pop and candy. At church so no dance but there were big group games. Never heard so much laughter and fun at a wedding.


13 posted on 10/20/2015 5:35:52 PM PDT by NorthstarMom (God says debt is a curse and children are a blessing, yet we apply for loans and prevent pregnancy.)
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To: markomalley

A cake is a celebration of the union. Pizza really isn’t. I do not think anyone should be forced to participate in an event they disapprove of, but it is different. Pictures and videos force the provider to look at the nasty affection. I would probably serve the pizza as long as I didn’t have to be a server at the event. I should say I would sell and deliver the pizza. I would not do the pictures, videos or cake.


14 posted on 10/20/2015 5:39:00 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: markomalley

How tacky.


15 posted on 10/20/2015 5:46:36 PM PDT by Mr. Blond
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To: markomalley

Good article.


16 posted on 10/20/2015 5:53:22 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: markomalley

One of the dumbest things about this is that not too many businesses cater pizza.

Pizza is usually picked up or delivered. Some entrepeneurs have built ovens that are mobile but it’s rare. Look up “Pizza Catering” and Pizza Hut and Dominos come up first. Then most all places that “cater” make everything and just deliver it with set-ups. You can easily build plug-in boxes to keep the pizza warm.

The owners never said they wouldn’t cater a “gay wedding”, they said they don’t cater. You can pick up or they can deliver an order.

Total setup. Regardless of the reason, setups like this have been done for years. Rosa Parks was a setup with the bus. I agree with the reason and applaud the outcome but that doesn’t take away it was set up.

But that was denying a right to someone on public transportation. Just because some business won’t serve you isn’t the same. If it was, surfer dudes like Spicoli can sue every restaurant with a “Shirts, Shoes or No Servers” sign.


17 posted on 10/20/2015 5:53:34 PM PDT by Fledermaus (To hell with the Republican Party. I'm done with them. If I want a Lib Dem I'd vote for one.)
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To: Fledermaus

Oops, “Service”


18 posted on 10/20/2015 5:56:01 PM PDT by Fledermaus (To hell with the Republican Party. I'm done with them. If I want a Lib Dem I'd vote for one.)
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To: markomalley

Homosexuality is a congenital defect like spina bifida and others. Prenatal supplementation with a full spectrum of chelated major and trace minerals will ensure that your children have grand children. If we can make the livestock breed at high efficiency for cost effectiveness we can damn well do it for humans.


19 posted on 10/20/2015 6:05:08 PM PDT by Crucial (At the heart all leftists is the fear that the truth is bigger than themselves.)
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To: Crucial

“Homosexuality is a congenital defect like spina bifida and others.”

I don’t. After reading and watching hours of personal accounts of people who have been in the lifestyle and managed to escape it, I have concluded that it is purely a result of a mental and psychological warping during early childhood.


20 posted on 10/20/2015 7:02:06 PM PDT by mom of young patriots
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