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What happens to Obamacare if GOP wins the White House? (Gonna need more senators)
CNBC ^ | 10/16/15 | Dan Mangan

Posted on 10/18/2015 6:19:05 PM PDT by Libloather

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The Senate's parliamentarian has told GOP Senate staffers she is skeptical that Obamacare can be repealed outright without at least 60 votes in that chamber, according to an analyst at a conservative think tank who has spoken to staffers. That's because 60 votes are necessary to overcome a filibuster, and because the parliamentarian has indicated she believes repeal would have to come from a bill, which can be filibustered. Some Obamacare opponents have called for the law to repealed through so-called reconciliation, a special budgetary procedure that requires only a simple majority of senators to pass.

The GOP currently holds 54 Senate seats. Few, if any, analysts are predicting the Republicans will pick up six more seats in 2016, since the GOP will be defending 24 seats, 14 more than Democrats.

"In my mind, it's impossible to get a 60-vote coalition" to kill Obamacare, said health insurance expert Robert Laszewski, who operates Health Policy and Strategy Associates in Virginia.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnbc.com ...


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KEYWORDS: gop; hussein; obamacare; whitehouse
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Or maybe let Hussein do it all by himself?

Obama Just Signed His 10th Bill Repealing (Parts Of) ObamaCare

1 posted on 10/18/2015 6:19:05 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Sixty votes? No problemo. WWHRD?


2 posted on 10/18/2015 6:21:40 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: Libloather
You don't need to repeal it. Just write a bill that supersedes it and defangs it. If you give people the right and ability to ignore it, It will die on its own.
3 posted on 10/18/2015 6:22:29 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Libloather

The illegals who lose their ObamaCare when it is repealed can use their Obama-Phones to call 1-800-GO-HOME.


4 posted on 10/18/2015 6:22:49 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The wise have stores of choice food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has. Proverbs 21:20)
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To: Libloather

All it would take is someone reciting the astonishing failure and waste of Obamacare so vociferously that even the mainstream media will cover it, and even the GOPe and most of the Democrats won’t want to be associated with it. Trump could do that without breaking a sweat.


5 posted on 10/18/2015 6:23:26 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: Libloather

Well, if past history is any indication, to change it we’ll need 100% of the House, 100% of the Senate, the Presidency, and every single one of the Alzheimer’s Supreme Court.


6 posted on 10/18/2015 6:23:55 PM PDT by 867V309 (Trump: Bull in a RINO Shoppe)
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To: Libloather
Defund the GD thing. The House controls the purse strings. Do it. If the government shuts down, GREAT!

That's the goal, anyways.

7 posted on 10/18/2015 6:27:14 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Libloather

Excuse me? Didn’t Dingy Harry use the budget reconciliation process in order get around the 60 vote requirement when Obamacare was enacted? Why can’t we repeal it the same way?


8 posted on 10/18/2015 6:28:21 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: Libloather
Wrong. Don't need any more than 51 Senators and a simple Majority in the US House of Representatives along with a (willing) Republican President to repeal Obamacare.

Most people have forgotten how our Government works, so here's a quick refresher course:

Obamacare was ruled to be a TAX by the (corrupt) US Supreme Court.

The implementation of, or repeal of Taxes requires nothing more than a simple majority in both chambers of Congress.

That's 51 Senators, 218 Representatives to vote to repeal Obamacare.

That's it.

Once the House and Senate vote to repeal, the President (presumably a willing, Republican President) simply signs the bill that comes to his desk and Obamacare is history.

Now, that's how it's SUPPOSED to work. As I always say, never underestimate the ability of the STUPID Party (that's Republicans...) to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

We saw them do just that with TPP in which McConnell and Boehner FOOLISHLY bargained away their Constitutional duties and set an artificially HIGH barrier, requiring more votes than necessary, to stop TPP.

What's clear to me is that this Congress just doesn't want to do its job and take the hard votes. I'd like to say a Republican President with this Congress would get rid of Obamacare, but I doubt it. They're just too f***ing stupid.

9 posted on 10/18/2015 6:28:55 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

Just use an executive order or tell everyone that the DOJ will not enforce the law


10 posted on 10/18/2015 6:32:11 PM PDT by Kozy
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To: Jim Robinson

My gosh, this was rammed through via reconciliation of a gutted then refilled bill with lies and bribes.

And they’re saying it can’t be repealed?

Pffffffttttt


11 posted on 10/18/2015 6:32:17 PM PDT by Principled (...the Supreme Court of the United States favors some laws over others...)
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To: usconservative

Unless people throw out the weasels, the Democrat in R jersey Senators, you’ll probably need more than 60


12 posted on 10/18/2015 6:33:33 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: usconservative
Wrong. Don't need any more than 51 Senators and a simple Majority in the US House of Representatives along with a (willing) Republican President to repeal Obamacare.

Problem is, the House and Senate make their own rules. With the uniparty, anything is possible, and odds are, it won't be good for us.


13 posted on 10/18/2015 6:33:52 PM PDT by 867V309 (Trump: Bull in a RINO Shoppe)
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To: Libloather
Not a thing. Each election cycle the Republicans will say, "Elect me and I will repeal obamacare".

But that point is moot because the Republicans are not going to win the White House. They will not win because in the last four years they have done nothing to stop Democrat vote fraud. By 2016 there will be millions of illegals voting. During the early voting period, the Democrats will have squads of voters going from precinct to precinct voting Democrat for as long as the precincts remain open. Plus the usual absentee ballots. 999 out of every thousand, and probably a thousand of everyone on welfare will vote at least one time for the Democrat. Most of the young will vote Democrat because they believe the media's lies. Most college students will vote Democrat because they believe the propaganda that their professors taught them.

14 posted on 10/18/2015 6:35:48 PM PDT by sport
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To: Libloather

All that you need is 51 Senators that are willing to invoke the Reid Rule and unilaterally change the filibuster rules.


15 posted on 10/18/2015 6:36:45 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: Libloather
It's never enough with these people. Harry Reid changed the rules whenever it suited him and Obama, but yet McConnell claims that he just can't do it.

The GOP-E deserves to lose.

16 posted on 10/18/2015 6:38:46 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Libloather
The GOP will not overturn ObamaCare.

The dirty little secret is that the Republican establishment fully supports most of its provisions.

17 posted on 10/18/2015 6:39:11 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: Libloather

Republicans long ago - rino/gop-er leadershp, already said they would not fight it.

It will not be fought against. Not by who is currently in congress running sh1t.


18 posted on 10/18/2015 6:43:35 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Timber Rattler

And lose they will. The morning after the election, moving vans will clog 1-95 for weeks.


19 posted on 10/18/2015 6:44:41 PM PDT by sport
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To: Jim Robinson

I suppose it had 60 votes to pass it.

Not.


20 posted on 10/18/2015 6:46:23 PM PDT by glorgau
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