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Oregon orders re-education and asset seizure for Christian couple
Spero News ^ | 10/5/15 | Martin Barillas

Posted on 10/05/2015 1:38:47 PM PDT by markomalley

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To: MrB

So long as this camp is not having me get up early, no work, get some rest then put me down and I will listen to their B/S and argue with them.


41 posted on 10/05/2015 2:02:13 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: markomalley

Pretty steep jizra.

We have no room for thoughtcrime!


42 posted on 10/05/2015 2:02:38 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: MarchonDC09122009

This was already done - and the media

STUDIOUSLY

ignored it.


43 posted on 10/05/2015 2:04:37 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Nea Wood

I saw that a few months ago.
Point was made but ignored by the MSM as expected.
The time is ripe to have libertarian an conservative gays (or those posing as such) to insist Muslims “bake the damn cake).

“Someone already did that, though I don’t think they pressed charges. It was just to make a point. They went around to Muslim bakeries and some did, indeed, refuse to bake Christian cakes.”


44 posted on 10/05/2015 2:05:15 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

They would still sue for un-tasty cake.


45 posted on 10/05/2015 2:05:37 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda—Divide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: MrB

That was just a video.
What I’m talking about is an actual conservative / libertarian gay couple who are actually planning on getting married to press charges in Oregon and across the country against Muslim establishment discrimination.
It’s one of the few ways to hamper Muslim dominance in society at this stage.


46 posted on 10/05/2015 2:08:33 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Except, that it’d cost upwards of a million dollars or more to do that. The system is farked!!


47 posted on 10/05/2015 2:08:47 PM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
LOL...love that!!

Reminds me of this....


48 posted on 10/05/2015 2:12:29 PM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: markomalley

How is MY marriage to another [man, woman, dog, horse] going to affect YOU, christian?” simpered one homosexual apologist after another not too very long ago.

Thusly:

“You say you won’t support homosexual unions? Off to the reeducation camp with YOU comrade refusenik! And we’re taking all your property for the state!” - the courts.

And if you STILL refuse, you go to jail.

Isn’t going to affect any of us any way at all, so long as we comply with their demands, no one gets hurt.

Homosexuality trumps all other considerations.

Know it.


49 posted on 10/05/2015 2:16:45 PM PDT by normbal (normbal. somewhere in socialist occupied America)
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To: markomalley

Melissa Klein said “... If a civil court or a circuit court judge had made this order, I would consider it legally binding. But when a bureaucracy does it and I didn’t get due process, I don’t call it legally binding.”

God bless this woman. This is a critical point, and it’s something that is being thoroughly ignored in most of the reporting on this situation, even by “conservative” news sources.

In coverage of the UN’s proposed 2030 I heard the term “international bureaucrat” used in describing how their proposed world order would be enforced.

“International Bureaucrat”. Those are two damn scary words.


50 posted on 10/05/2015 2:20:18 PM PDT by Junk Silver
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To: ExTxMarine

So the Lefties have bought into the idea of the jizya.


51 posted on 10/05/2015 2:22:19 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: Jane Long

What is that from?


52 posted on 10/05/2015 2:22:23 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Jane Long

Best scene in the movie!! :)


53 posted on 10/05/2015 2:23:26 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

The Supreme Court last year ruled that a group must have the opportunity to appeal and seek due process outside the administrative courts (the government bureaucracy creating rules, then enforcing rules) before they are forced to comply.
The Pacific Legal Foundation argued that and won in front of the Supreme Court, in a case where the EPA said comply with the ruling, THEN you can appeal it.
Demanding that someone pay the fine while they try to appeal it seems to be a violation of that Supreme Court ruling.


54 posted on 10/05/2015 2:24:36 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Popman
This kind of crap: overreach of powers that be, blatant violation of representative government, no legal due process, caused a bunch of tea to be tossed in Boston Harbor...

We knew how to deal with overbearing, self-important petty tyrants in those days.

The Chastisement of John Malcolm

In 1774, John Malcolm was a Crown customs collector, based in Boston. At that time Boston had had five years of civic tension culminating in the Boston Massacre. Malcolm, like most Crown representatives didn't much like the Bostonians and harboured smouldering resentment against the uppity locals who had been resisting Crown authority since the Stamp Act in 1768. They made his job difficult. Malcolm had more reason than most to hold a grudge against the colonists. He had only recently had a run-in with the good people of Portland, Maine on a customs matter over which they had disagreed. The Portland folks saw fit to tar and feather Malcolm but were kind enough to allow him to remain clothed for the treatment. Being a prideful man who was impressed by his own authority, this didn't sit well.

In the snow covered streets of Boston in January Malcolm was run over by a boy sledding in the street. Malcolm, his temper getting the best of him, raised his cane to strike the boy. George Hewes, a local shoemaker, intervened and Malcolm turned on Hewes. At first, Malcolm tried to overawe Hewes with his social rank - being a gentleman and, in Malcolm's mind, a hero of the French and Indian War. Hewes took the vituperation of Malcolm with a grain of salt and retorted "Be that as it may, I was never tarred and feathered." That was the match to Malcolm's tinder and he flew at Hewes and struck him a near fatal blow to the head with his cane.

The town of Boston was electric with tension between the locals and Crown representatives and word of this attack spread almost instantly. A crowd gathered at Malcolm's house while he shouted out a window, relishing baiting the crowd into an uproar, and flourishing with his sword, eventually stabbing one man in the chest.

The crowd swarmed the house, forcing Malcolm to retreat to the second floor. Malcolm was eventually disarmed and the crowd seized him, tied him, put him on a sled and dragged him through the town as brickbats rained upon him.

After pulling him by the wharfs to pick up a barrel of tar, the mob took him to King St, by the Town House, where political rallies were customarily held and where the Massacre had occurred.

In the chill of the coldest night of a Boston January Malcolm was stripped, dislocating his arm, and hot tar daubed on his bare skin, burning his flesh.

Feathers then were applied to give what was then called the "modern jacket". Malcolm was then paraded, both burned and freezing, from one end of the town to the other and back. At the Liberty Tree they threw a noose around his neck and threatened to hang him if he didn't denounce the Governor and the Customs Commissioners. He refused but they didn't hang him. Instead they paraded him back to the far end of town again, eventually rolling him out of the cart at his home "like a log."

Malcolm wasn't the first or last to suffer from the people's anger. In the time before Concord and Lexington many Crown representatives as well as colonists in government positions suffered their houses to be ransacked, demolished or fired and their persons to be insulted most cruelly. Soon, the British Regulars - the Redcoats - the Crown's SWAT teams of the time - which had been withdrawn after the Boston Massacre in an attempt to calm matters were returned in force and Boston was placed under martial law.

55 posted on 10/05/2015 2:26:21 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: markomalley

The smell of 1930’s Nazi Germany ....


56 posted on 10/05/2015 2:27:38 PM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: markomalley; All

It really sounds to me like Oregon needs to be reverted back to territorial status, have all the Democrats cleaned out, and then be re-admitted on a proviso that Democrats can’t hold office.

Why not? Utah wasn’t allowed to become a state until they “officially” renounced polygamy.

And the Constitution also states that it guarantees each state a republican form of government. Since Oregon no longer has that, it cannot be a state either.

/only partially kidding


57 posted on 10/05/2015 2:28:55 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (It's time to repeal and replace the GOP)
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To: Nuc 1.1

I would have BAKED the CAKE; when the recipe asked for water, I would put in URINE. And I would have the biggest smile.


58 posted on 10/05/2015 2:29:24 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: Hans

Brad Avakian

Commissioner of the Oregon Bureau of Labor and Industries
Incumbent
Assumed office
April 8, 2008
Appointed by Governor John Kitzhaber

Personal details

Born February 4, 1961 (age 54)
Fresno, California, U.S.
Political party Democratic
Spouse(s) Deborah Lynn Avakian
Alma mater Oregon State University
Lewis and Clark College

Bradley Paul "Brad" Avakian (born February 4, 1961) is the Commissioner of the Oregon Bureau of Labor and Industries. He was appointed by Governor Ted Kulongoski on April 8, 2008 and subsequently elected statewide on November 4, 2008.[1] He was re-elected in 2012 and 2014. While the Commissioner of Labor and Industries has been a nonpartisan position since 1995,[1] Avakian previously served in both houses of the Oregon Legislative Assembly as a Democrat. Early life[edit]

Born in Fresno, California, he is the son of Larry and Catherine Avakian, who now reside in Thousand Oaks, California. He is of Armenian descent. His grandfather was Avak Avakian, who came to America from Muş in 1898. His grandmother, Sirpoohi Antoyan, came from Bitlis in 1900.[2]

Avakian was raised in Washington County, Oregon.[3] He was educated in Oregon’s public schools and graduated as a Juris doctor from Lewis & Clark Law School in 1990.[3] He helped create the YMCA's Juvenile Restitution Program while in law school.[3]

Avakian then worked as a civil rights attorney.[3] He co-founded the Oregon League of Conservation Voters' (OLCV) Washington County chapter,[3] and he was appointed by Governor Barbara Roberts to lead the State Board of Psychologist Examiners.[3] He serves as Honorary Chair of the Oregon Business Leadership Network, a coalition of employers committed to hiring the disabled.[3] Avakian lives in the Portland metropolitan area in the city of Beaverton. Political career[edit]

Avakian ran for the Oregon State Senate in 1998,[4] losing to incumbent Republican Tom Hartung.[5]

Avakian was elected to represent District 34, on Portland's west side, in the Oregon House of Representatives in 2002.[6] He defeated Portland police officer John Scruggs,[7] the only Republican to lose in Washington County that year,[6] with 53 percent of the vote.[8]

Avakian was elected to the Oregon State Senate, representing District 17, in 2006.

While in the legislature, Avakian was honored by both the Oregon AFL-CIO and the SEIU Local 503 for his work on behalf of working families.[3] In the state Senate he chaired the Environment and Natural Resources Committee, and in 2007 the OLCV named him the "Consensus Builder of the Year," recognizing him for passing an extension of the Oregon Bottle Bill and a renewable energy act.[3] In 2008 he led a coalition to approve water supply development for rural communities.[3]

In July 2007, Avakian announced his candidacy for the Democratic nomination for Oregon Secretary of State.[9] He later withdrew from the race when he was appointed by governor Ted Kulongoski to be Commissioner of the Oregon Bureau of Labor and Industries in early 2008 after Dan Gardner announced his resignation.[1] Gardner was the first Commissioner of Labor and Industries to leave mid-term for a new job.[1]

In April 2011, Avakian announced that he would seek the Democratic nomination for Oregon's 1st congressional district in the United States House of Representatives.[10] The seat was held by fellow Democrat David Wu, who resigned from Congress before the end of his term due to allegations of sexual misconduct.[11] Avakian lost in the Democratic primary to Suzanne Bonamici, who succeeded him in both the Oregon House and Senate.

On July 2, 2015, Avakian ordered the owners of Sweet Cakes by Melissa, a family-owned bakery in Gresham, to pay a lesbian couple $135,000 in emotional damages for refusing to make a cake for their wedding as well as a cease and desist order to stop speaking publicly about their motivation for refusing service.[12] The owners had cited their Christian beliefs against same-sex marriage.[13]

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59 posted on 10/05/2015 2:30:46 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: markomalley

Far, far lesser abuses started the revolution.

We have a right to defend ourselves against these abuses of power which have crossed a real red line.

Use of force against this tyranny is 100% justified.

The rule of law does not apply when the laws are illegal.

Tyrants need to be held to account.


60 posted on 10/05/2015 2:32:40 PM PDT by unlearner (RIP America, 7/4/1776 - 6/26/2015, "Only God can judge us now." - Claus Von Stauffenberg / Valkyrie)
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