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Biden to speak to gay rights group as he ponders WH bid
The Hill ^ | 10/2/15 | Jordan Fabian and Amie Parnes

Posted on 10/02/2015 6:53:02 AM PDT by markomalley

Vice President Biden would have immediate, strong support within the LGBT community should he decide to run for president.

Several top Democrats believe Biden could pull support away from front-runner Hillary Clinton in large part due to his early support for same-sex marriage, a claim Clinton supporters strongly dispute.

Biden on Saturday will have a prime opportunity to appeal to LGBT voters when he delivers the keynote speech at the annual gala of the Human Rights Campaign, the most influential gay rights group in the country.

Before that, Clinton is scheduled to have breakfast with the group’s leaders but she won’t speak at the main event. Clinton turned down an invitation to headline the gala to appear on “Saturday Night Live,” according to The New York Times.

One Democratic donor, who is a former senior political operative in the LGBT world, said many in the community deeply admire Clinton but have a soft spot for Biden because he “speaks very authentically” about gay rights.

“He pushed Obama off the cliff,” the operative said. “There's a lot of good feeling for him because he was on the leading edge as opposed to responding to political events.”

The operative said he has been a regular donor to the Clinton campaign but conceded, “I would stop my contributions and go ‘wait a minute’” if Biden jumped in. “I’m a guy that goes with my heart not my head.”

Though small in size, the LGBT community has become a key constituency for Democrats. Its members are politically active, donating money to and working on behalf of candidates around the country.

The gay and lesbian community could serve as a natural base of support for Biden. The vice president is widely seen as having advanced their cause in 2012 by becoming the highest-ranking elected official to publicly endorse same-sex marriage, one of the most politically charged social issues in the country.

His decision virtually forced President Obama to announce his backing for same-sex marriage just days later. LGBT activists also praise Biden for stating in 2012 that transgender rights are “the civil rights issue of our time.”

“I trust the VP is going to push these issues. I can’t say the same for Hillary,” said Jay Franzone, communications director for the National Gay Blood Drive, who is undecided in the race.

But many Democrats say it’s too late for Biden to win over gay Democrats already committed to Clinton.

“I don’t think people will leave Hillary Clinton to support him, no,” said veteran Democratic strategist Steve Elmendorf, who is backing Clinton. “His biggest problem is he is late. She has been running for president for nine months … It’s hard to show up late in the game and get much support.”

Having already launched her campaign, Clinton has an early advantage over Biden in winning over backers within the LGBT community.

Her campaign announced this week it hired a new staffer, Dominic Lowell, to serve as liaison to the LGBT community. Several high-ranking Clinton officials, including campaign manager Robby Mook, are openly gay.

“A lot of LGBT people have been hosting him at events,” one senior LGBT activist said of Mook. “It's hard to pry people away from her campaign.”

Clinton has portrayed herself as a champion of gay rights. Her campaign launch video showed a gay couple holding hands and she has spoken out about LGBT issues on the campaign trail. Chelsea Clinton has been kept on the sidelines of her mom's campaign for the most part, but her first campaign appearance took place at the gay pride parade in New York.

The Clinton campaign will continue to have a steady outreach program and include the LGBT community in policy rollouts, a Clinton campaign aide said.

While Biden was first to endorse same-sex marriage, her supporters note she delivered a 2011 speech as secretary of State that called gay rights and human rights “one and the same.”

She announced her support for same-sex marriage in 2013.

“I don’t think there is any substantive difference in their support for gay marriage,” Elmendorf said of Clinton and Biden.

Biden will reportedly sit out the first Democratic debate on October 13, another sign he has not yet decided whether to jump into the race.

While Biden waits on the sidelines, his supporters have reached out to influential figures in the LGBT community to ask for their support if he runs.

Jon Cooper, national finance director for the Draft Biden super PAC, said at least half a dozen LGBT bundlers who are committed to backing the vice president if he enters the race, including one who contributes to Clinton.

“There is a very deep reservoir of support for the vice president, folks are just waiting for him to announce his run,” said Cooper, a former Obama bundler. “Once he does, they will be there and a good number will be members of the LGBT community.”

Another Biden supporter, Erik Ramanathan, said the majority of donors he is recruiting are undecided. But he said many Clinton backers are considering switching allegiances to Biden or donating to the Democratic National Committee.

“There’s a great appreciation for Biden in the LGBT community and across the country,” he said. “That’s why I am doing what I am doing.”

Biden supporters are loathe to directly criticize Clinton. But they imply Clinton’s stance on gay rights is an example of a broader criticism against her; that her political choices are too calculated.

The latest batch of her emails contained a message from 2011, in which she objected to a change on State Department forms designed to accommodate same-sex couples. The change would have used gender-neutral terms to describe parents, replacing “mother” and “father.”

“We need to address this today or we will be facing a huge Fox-generated media storm led by Palin et al,” she wrote in the email.

Biden backers say his support for gay rights dates back decades.

In the Senate, he backed expanding hate-crimes legislation to include sexual orientation and he led the charge against Supreme Court nominee Robert Bork in the 1987, which paved the way for Anthony Kennedy to reach the bench. Kennedy wrote the court’s opinion legalizing same-sex marriage this summer.

In a July speech, he recalled what his father told him as a child the first time he saw two men kissing.

“He said, Joey, they love each other. It’s simple,” Biden said.

But some Clinton supporters note Biden’s record is not without blemishes. As a senator, he voted for the Defense of Marriage Act in 1996, which was signed by then-President Bill Clinton. The law, which was overturned by the high court, blocked federal recognition of same-sex marriages.

All LGBT activists agree the stakes are high for them in the race for the White House.

They are looking for a Democratic nominee who is electable and would defend the gains made during the Obama administration on gay-rights, including same-sex marriage and the repeal of the military’s “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy. The next president could also appoint multiple justices to the Supreme Court.

“We're going to have to work harder to protect the gains that we’ve made,” Obama said last week at a Democratic Party LGBT gala. “We're going to have to work harder to widen the circle of opportunity for all who strive for it. It will not be easy.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016demprimary; biden; biden2016; delaware; gayvote; homosexualagenda; hrc; humanrightscampaign; joebiden; lgbt

1 posted on 10/02/2015 6:53:02 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Biden is so *cool* and *loving.* He really needs to be President.


2 posted on 10/02/2015 6:55:17 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (Diversity is Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama sharing the same jail cell.)
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To: markomalley

If it wasn’t for all the useful idiots supporting the sodomites (including those purportedly on the right), sodomite support of a presidential candidate would amount to practically nothing.


3 posted on 10/02/2015 6:55:31 AM PDT by mrsmel (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: markomalley

Just go ponder yourself, Mr. Biden…………..


4 posted on 10/02/2015 6:58:55 AM PDT by basil ( God bless the USA!)
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To: markomalley

Dear Biden: You’re a homo.


5 posted on 10/02/2015 6:59:49 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son...)
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To: markomalley

I want to be president ... I think I’ll go talk to the queers first


6 posted on 10/02/2015 7:03:25 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: markomalley

Biden will only get in if he has the inside scoop that Hillary has some criminal liability issues. Stay tuned.


7 posted on 10/02/2015 7:05:12 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (frequently.)
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To: markomalley

Did the LGBT community’s hatred of Christians encourage the killer yesterday?


8 posted on 10/02/2015 7:08:02 AM PDT by GOPJ ("The Lives of Others" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE)
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To: markomalley

Joe’s got priapism in anticipation


9 posted on 10/02/2015 7:08:56 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Eliminate "Sanctuary Cities" and "birthright citizenship" and other immigration scams)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

Required of democrats.


10 posted on 10/02/2015 7:30:39 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: DungeonMaster

To listen to them talk, calling one of their own party members a “homo” should be the greatest compliment one could pay in this new “enlightened” age.

That it obviously isn’t taken that way speaks volumes.


11 posted on 10/02/2015 7:35:02 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: markomalley

Great Catholic /s


12 posted on 10/02/2015 8:10:29 AM PDT by rich4004
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To: knarf

Hey, I’m all for gay rights too - they have the right to shake their fists in God’s face and they also have the right to suffer the consequences of that action. Hell widens it’s mouth in anticipation of those rights.


13 posted on 10/02/2015 8:11:18 AM PDT by Catsrus ( I callz 'em as I seez 'em.)
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To: mrsmel

The hatred of traditional Christian Americans fueled by Biden and the left wing pushed the killer yesterday. He was very confident he would be a hero for killing Christians.


14 posted on 10/02/2015 8:14:08 AM PDT by GOPJ ("The Lives of Others" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE)
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To: GOPJ
here
15 posted on 10/02/2015 8:33:14 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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