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Audi and Skoda say 3.3m cars have 'cheat' emissions software
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| 09-28-2015
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Posted on 09/28/2015 1:13:26 PM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger
“Audi—this is truthiness in engineering”?
To: 9YearLurker
Engineering? yes, Programming? no......................
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posted on
09/28/2015 2:05:06 PM PDT
by
Red Badger
(READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
To: Red Badger
If you dont cheat, you look like an idiot; if you cheat and dont get caught, you look like a hero; if you cheat and get caught, you look like a dope. Put me where I belong. Darrell Waltrip, 1976
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posted on
09/28/2015 2:09:38 PM PDT
by
nascarnation
(C. Edmund Wright says I'm a moron)
To: Red Badger
The rest of the world gets: Audi, vorsprung durch technik, ( “Ahead through technology”)
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posted on
09/28/2015 2:10:00 PM PDT
by
moose07
(DMCS (Dit Me Cong San ) - Nah)
To: Red Badger
I don’t give a rat’s hindquarters what my diesel emits.
To: Up Yours Marxists
computers with the same evil software.
I would love to buy a bunch of these. And get the software and open aource it so that everyone could upload. Great idea.
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posted on
09/28/2015 2:20:05 PM PDT
by
kvanbrunt2
(civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
To: nascarnation
If You Ain’t Cheatin’, You Ain’t Tryin....................
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posted on
09/28/2015 2:30:06 PM PDT
by
Red Badger
(READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
To: AdaGray
Does your car run well?
If it does, what’s the problem?
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posted on
09/28/2015 2:50:45 PM PDT
by
WayneS
(Yeah, it's probably sarcasm...)
To: Gay State Conservative
To: Red Badger
Correct. Up until a few years ago, it was almost impossible to engineer a practical HCCI engine; but now, with modern valvetrain design, electronic engine controls and modern pressurized direct fuel injection systems, HCCI is on the very of becoming a viable alternative to diesel (but without the diesel emission issues).
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posted on
09/28/2015 2:51:10 PM PDT
by
RayChuang88
(FairTax: America's economic cure)
To: kvanbrunt2; AdaGray; Red Badger
All my newer cars run on pure ethanol. In other words, they run on pure corn-e.
To: Red Badger
Can someone give a technical explanation of this (numbers are made up for illustration):
1) Car A gets 25 mpg with the “test mode” software running.
2) With “illegal” software changes, same vehicle performs better and gets 30 mpg.
3) There being no free energy lunch, this can only happen via more efficient and complete combustion. That would result in lower hydrocarbon emissions. How exactly is this worse for the environment?
Is the gubment requiring more hydrocarbon emission as a tradeoff for something they have decided is worse? What?
To: Red Badger
I don’t blame them. The EPA CAFE standards are stupid and arbitrary and is nothing but libearl tyranny.
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posted on
09/28/2015 3:29:20 PM PDT
by
Fledermaus
(To hell with the Republican Party. I'm done with them. If I want a Lib Dem I'd vote for one.)
To: Red Badger
Actually I was looking at buying a new Audi. Maybe the prices will go down now. 😜
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posted on
09/28/2015 4:30:47 PM PDT
by
sheana
To: WayneS; Red Badger
>>I would guess that diesel-powered Porsches have the same problem.
I doubt it. I think the Porsches only use the 3.0 6-cyl with pee-fluid injection. There isn’t a problem there, as far as I know. The problems are with the 2.0 TDI with the DPF and no urea injection. Porsche doesn’t use anything that small, at least over here.
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posted on
09/28/2015 5:38:54 PM PDT
by
FreedomPoster
(Islam delenda est)
To: WayneS
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posted on
09/28/2015 5:39:56 PM PDT
by
FreedomPoster
(Islam delenda est)
To: AdaGray
I darn sure wouldn’t take it anywhere near a dealer, unless you want an ECU flash the results of which you might not like.
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posted on
09/28/2015 5:40:57 PM PDT
by
FreedomPoster
(Islam delenda est)
To: FreedomPoster
I like what the engineers did. They were asked to set up the car so that when it was tested, the test results were excellent and when the car was on the road that the performance was excellent.
Sounds like the engineers delivered..in all innocence.
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posted on
09/28/2015 5:49:12 PM PDT
by
Dustoff45
(A good woman brings out the best in a good man! A better woman might be just what this nation needs)
To: Dustoff45
I can understand that some districts with strict emissions testing might fail the diesels. But they might become wise investments for buyers in parts of the country without local emissions testings.
What I fear is some bureaucratic move to make the cars illegal. That would be a mistake.
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posted on
09/28/2015 5:59:05 PM PDT
by
Dustoff45
(A good woman brings out the best in a good man! A better woman might be just what this nation needs)
To: Dustoff45
I’ve told a couple of people not to let their cars anywhere near a dealer. You likely don’t want their ECU “update”.
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posted on
09/28/2015 7:48:02 PM PDT
by
FreedomPoster
(Islam delenda est)
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