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GOP Polls -- The Top Five Biggest Changes After The Second Debate
Inquisitr ^ | 09/21/2015 | Patricia Ramirez

Posted on 09/21/2015 11:24:55 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Since last Wednesday’s second Republican primary debate, all eyes have been on the GOP polls. It didn’t take long for folks to figure out who won (Fiorina) or who lost (Trump), reports Yahoo! News. What did take a few days was calculating the impact the debate performance would have at the polls. The news is starting to trickle in, and it’s pretty surprising.

CNN poll shows that GOP voters think @CarlyFiorina won the debate with @marcorubio in second http://t.co/29X1iLYXnj pic.twitter.com/4CluLFSeuz

— State of the Union (@CNNSotu) September 20, 2015

1. Trump’s still on top.

Despite taking a verbal pounding from his opponents, The Donald still retains an impressive lead in the polls. He survived a public trouncing from the woman whose face he publicly called into question, and still managed to come out ahead of the pack in the polls, where the numbers really count.

“A lot of people say I won the debate based on Drudge and based on everyone else that did polls of the debate itself. So, uh, generally speaking, I think I’ve gone up since the debate. But we’ll see what happens.”

Not so fast there, Mr. Trump. While the controversial TV personality and businessman in still leading the way, his lead is definitely narrowing. He’s dropped from 32 percent of the vote in August to 24 percent in this week’s polls. Could his dominance be waning?

Carly Fiorina confronted Trump after his recent comments about her face: http://t.co/InPS7kDZ0L pic.twitter.com/jKftjj1Slp

— Us Weekly (@usweekly) September 17, 2015

2. Fiorina vaults to number two.

While Trump is still on top of the GOP polls, his lead has definitely slipped. He’s dropped 8 percent in the polls, and Carly Fiorina has been quick to pick up his slack. Fiorina currently claims 15 percent of the vote (a huge jump from the dismal 3 percent she claimed in early September) in the most recent polls. This puts her strongly in contention for the Republican nomination. She jumped ahead of previous second-place candidate Ben Carson, who the polls now put at 14 percent, the Los Angeles Times reports.

Fiorina surges to second place in first major post-debate poll: http://t.co/SAwfNQedaS pic.twitter.com/AKwg9MgxXe

— The Hill (@thehill) September 20, 2015

3. The voters don’t want “Old Washington” blood.

The GOP polls are sending a very clear message to the Republican candidates. The public wants change. Not the same names that have been rolling around Washington D.C. for years, and even generations. Some of the most established political names on the GOP roster are dropping lower and lower in the polls.

No, we *KNOW* @GOP leaders are corrupt, inept and mendacious. As are *ALL* #RulingClass politicians, of both Parties https://t.co/V4y9e1ConH

— 0ne Good Gonz0 (@serr8d) September 19, 2015

So-called “traditional” GOP candidates, including one-time leader-of-the-pack and even once-upon-a-time presumed GOP nominee Jeb Bush, aren’t faring very well in current polls. Bush is currently estimated at 9 percent, just below Rubio at 11 percent and Cruz, who has 6 percent of the vote based on most recent polls.

4. “Change” is the biggest concern for voters.

While some of the things coming out of GOP contenders’ mouths indicate that their primary concern is keeping their potential constituents entertained, voters have a different idea of what’s truly important. Current polls asked potential voters quality is most important in a candidate. Only 3 percent answered “the right experience.”

While that might seem like bad news for professional entertainers, it doesn’t actually seem to be. This is because 37 percent of those asked cited that the ability to “bring about needed change” was their first and foremost concern, according to GOP polls. Forty-six percent of Trump’s voting base feels as though he’s the guy who can make that change a reality.

VOTE FOR "REAL" CHANGE 2016 VOTE TRUMP MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN! pic.twitter.com/YCMVkS98gs

— SUE CHAINEZ (@azblonde2015) September 20, 2015

Ironically, “change” was President Obama’s campaign platform.

5. It’s not always good to be ahead in a poll.

Sometimes, being ahead in the polls can be a very bad thing. Donald Trump, for example, is the current GOP Primary frontrunner. His lead might be slipping, but it’s been consistent, and his supporters are committed. However, when your shtick is being as polarizing as possible, you’re bound to accumulate a few haters in the polls.

Maybe even more than a few. Recent polls indicate that while The Donald is holding onto his lead, he’s also leading the competition when it comes to being viewed “unfavorably.” Fully 40 percent of those polled have an unfavorable view of the Apprentice host. Bush comes in at only 38 percent unfavorable in the polls, despite the constituencies’ demand for someone without a D.C. resume.

Figure eventually GOP will go with least unfavorable candidate…which right now is Carson http://t.co/8E3SWfxHT1 pic.twitter.com/cGgOwwIuss

— Nick (@NickatFP) September 18, 2015

The truth of the matter is that despite all of these GOP polls, right now it’s all up in the air. Polls this early in the campaign season are notoriously bad at predicting general election outcomes. The most accurate GOP polls for predicting the next President are those where people predict who they think will win, not necessarily who they’d prefer to vote for.

Yet again, Trump comes out ahead. He commands roughly 33 percent of that vote, with Bush and Carson coming in 2nd and 3rd in the polls, respectively.

The polls also hit on some of the issues important to GOP primary voters. One of the most important is defunding Planned Parenthood. Fully 61 percent said they’d be more likely to vote for a candidate who took that stance. Sending ground troops to the Middle East is also high on this list of important issues for the GOP voter base. Over 50 percent were more willing to cast their vote for candidates who want to put U.S. boots on the ground to battle ISIS, according to polls.

The #GOPDebate has turned into a race for who can defund women's healthcare services the fastest. #GOPPriorities

— Priorities USA (@prioritiesUSA) September 17, 2015

With the 2016 campaign season in full swing, there’s no doubt that voters will definitely be following the GOP polls closely for months to come.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gop; polls; republican

1 posted on 09/21/2015 11:24:55 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
5. It’s not always good to be ahead in a poll.

...and it's never good to be a head on a pole.

2 posted on 09/21/2015 11:30:02 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: SeekAndFind

I just love how everyone is using this poll and ignoring the others. Biased much?


3 posted on 09/21/2015 11:31:47 AM PDT by Catsrus (Trump/Cruz - the only 2 worth voting for. I callz 'em as I seez 'em.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Not so fast there, Mr. Trump. While the controversial TV personality and businessman in still leading the way, his lead is definitely narrowing. He’s dropped from 32 percent of the vote in August to 24 percent in this week’s polls. Could his dominance be waning?

CNN Poll having Trump at 32 was September 8. The poll from CNN/ORC in August also had him at 24. The CNN poll for Sep 8 has some demographic oddities in a spike among Independents and moderates vs the one before and after. I am amazed at how aroused commentators get when they think the see something that fits a narrative they want.
4 posted on 09/21/2015 11:37:12 AM PDT by BigEdLB (Congress will have blood on their hands if anything happens because of the Iran appeasement)
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To: BigEdLB

They use the poll that is the worst for Trump, and think folks won’t notice.

A number of polls are out, and they don’t try to address one that seems to reflect the main consensus, they choose the one most wildly negative to Trump. It isn’t even close to the others.

This is one reason why folks don’t respect or trust the media any longer. It’s just untruths, propaganda, and truths that go unreported.

Our media to day couldn’t be more dishonest. Pravda was never much worse than this, if ever.


5 posted on 09/21/2015 11:42:46 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: Catsrus
I just love how everyone is using this poll and ignoring the others. Biased much?

Using the last poll doesn't make sense especially when it disagrees what we believe. They are trying to poll a fast one on us.

6 posted on 09/21/2015 11:45:29 AM PDT by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I think CNN intentionally messed up the one on Sept 8, Trump too high, so they could show a narrative they wanted. Then they fudge a small bit on this new one, lower Trump a little to complete the package. The one from the end of August is probably accurate for its time. The last two, less so. Also the MOE on the new one is 8% and no internals on Moderates either like there were in the previous two.


7 posted on 09/21/2015 11:49:48 AM PDT by BigEdLB (Congress will have blood on their hands if anything happens because of the Iran appeasement)
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To: BigEdLB

Those 40% and 36% polling figures in several polls made me think of that.

Set him up with unreal high numbers, then undercut him with unreal low ones, claiming vanishing support.

That’s why I don’t get overly about high or low polling numbers for him.

It is interesting to watch others, and see their reactions.

Like you, I think we should be wary of this data.

The dislike for Trump is very strong out there, and folks are going to do what they generally do when they don’t like a guy.


8 posted on 09/21/2015 12:06:15 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

5. It’s not always good to be ahead in a poll.


Ask Fiorina,Carson, Cruz, Rubio, Huckabee, Bush, Paul, Christie, Walker, Pataki, Graham, Jindal, et al, where they’d rather be today.


9 posted on 09/21/2015 12:08:03 PM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject")
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To: DoughtyOne

The weekend polls: NBC 29, and Zogby 33 seem consistent


10 posted on 09/21/2015 12:09:56 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Congress will have blood on their hands if anything happens because of the Iran appeasement)
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To: BigEdLB

I agree. They are in the same ball park.

Then you get that 22% figure, and scratch your head.

Of course the Left runs with 22%, as if it’s a solid indicator of fact.

What candidate calls them on their nonsense like Trump does?


11 posted on 09/21/2015 12:13:52 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: BigEdLB
CNN Poll having Trump at 32 was September 8. The poll from CNN/ORC in August also had him at 24. The CNN poll for Sep 8 has some demographic oddities in a spike among Independents and moderates vs the one before and after. I am amazed at how aroused commentators get when they think the see something that fits a narrative they want.

Polls need to keep to the same methodology they started with to be used as benchmarks for the following polls. It's to understand true rises or falls. Yep, polls likes this start to smell.

12 posted on 09/21/2015 12:42:56 PM PDT by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: DoughtyOne

Ignore all polls.

Just remember 1948.

.


13 posted on 09/21/2015 12:45:45 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Mears

The papers that printed that headline, are still eating crow.

LOL


14 posted on 09/21/2015 12:48:06 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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