Post-Debate National Poll Shows Fiorina Tied for First with Trump

Scribd ^ | 9/17/2015 | Doug Kaplan

[CA Conservative]

they succeed, they’ll get smoked in the general, as most of Trump’s hardcore base (probably 20% of GOP electorate) will stay home. I know I will.

It's beginning to look like the Trump candidacy may elect the Dem candidate whether or not he gets the nomination. If he doesn't get the nomination, his supporters will stay home. If he does, the supporters of all of the candidates he has insulted will stay home...

[mrsmith]

A reasonable result for now.
Wasn’t it three days before the media released a poll on the first debate- the one Trump won hands down- while the media spent three days saying he lost?

Anyway: “Welcome to the party” Carly, as John McLame(?) said in Die Hard.

[LS]

I’m glad you take this seriously. You also took seriously the 50+ state level and national polls that had Trump leading, right? Just want to make sure we take all polls seriously.

[Ghost of SVR4]

Ping to you on my last...

[PAR35]

Or, at the site that paid for it:

http://www.oann.com/pollnational/

[LS]

I think you're right, and she has yet to show---and maybe she can---that she can hold a big crowd as a single speaker like Trump and Cruz do. Certainly Bush and Jindal and Rubio and Walker don't.

But on Twitter, they are positively orgasming---especially the NRO crowd, because they think they finally have someone who can take down The Donald. (They forget that Carson, who was coming close, just got crushed in that debate and will drop like a rock).

[JediJones]

He’s polarizing, a love-hate candidate. When he first started the polling showed he had high negatives, many who would never vote for him. Then the numbers seemed to get better, but last night looks like a swing back towards that same problem.

[JediJones]

It’s a great poll, limited to registered Republicans and with far over 1,000 voters. And they got it done fast to get a fresh reaction to the debate. Some of these polls people have been referencing in recent weeks have only like 300 respondents. This is one of the better ones statistically that I’ve seen recently.

Last I checked Karl Rove doesn’t support Ted Cruz or the TV network that gave Sarah Palin her own show. So, no, I’m not a Rove-bot.

[italianquaker]

Thnx

[italianquaker]

10/4 k

[Haiku Guy]

Since Donald Trump’s argument has been “Vote for me because I’m ahead”, what is his argument now?

[ncalburt]

Nailed ya

[Jeff Head]

I watched the entire debate.

Trump took a few hits...but so did Fiorina. IN fact, most of them took some hits...but also had some good points.

I felt Cruz was the most Presidential of the group...but he just did not get much time...and he was not involved in the slug fests either.

The Drudge poll had over 672,000 people participate. It had Trump winning going away. sure, if you go into some kind of "debate rules," and try and look at it clinically, you may say different...but people do not vote that way.

Here's the full results of the Drudge poll:

Name-----Votes---Percent
Trump---342,261--50.93%
Fiorina-152,087--22.63%
Rubio----43,915--6.53%
Cruz-----40,687--6.05%
Paul-----29,333--4.36%
Carson---28,171--4.19%
Christie--9,264--1.38%
Kasich----8,577--1.28%
Bush------8,363--1.24%
Walker----5,225--0.78%
Huckabee--4,128--0.61%
Total---672,011

I simply did not see it...Fiorina tying Trump or catching up to him. Sure she gained...but I think it will be fleeting, and not even close to catching Trump.

I want Cruz hands down...but Cruz is also playing the entire Trump phenomena wisely. He has not attacked Trump at all...in fact he has done events together with Trump.

If Trump implodes (which looks less and less likely IMHO) his supporters are going to need somewhere to go. Right now that looks to me like Cruz.

If Trump gets the nomination, he is going to be looking for a VP...and right now, Cruz is positioned for that.

Could you imagine 8 years of Trump followed by eight years of Cruz?

[proust]

His argument was a yuge wall if you’d been paying attention.

[nhwingut]

If he does, the supporters of all of the candidates he has insulted will stay home...

Spare me. To eqate media treatment with candidate attacks is delusional.

All candidates attack one another. If it were about attacks from other candidates no Trump supporter would care. And by the way he's always attacked first.

In fact some candidates hold a press conferences (Graham, Perry, Jindal) to just rail some of the nastiest attacks on Trump (saying things they've never have the balls to say about Obama).

I'm talking about the daily drum beat of columns, threats and name calling from almost every single member of the GOPe media from FOX and WSJ to NRO and Weekly Standard among others. Every day. Calling supporters racists, vulgarian, low information idiots, etc.

Give me some examples of where Trump has attacked someone so bad and unwarranted that it deserves supporters to sit home? You can't and it's just an excuse because you hate Trump.

[ncalburt]

Ha Ha
So your peddling the latest RNC -Karl Rove Hired Assassin Carly the Crooked Ceo who Babs Boxer crushed in the Ca Senate race to help Cruz who that the Rove - Rnc both hate !

That makes sense to whom?

Gravitas is the crappy research company that does cheap push polling .
The RNC elites use this fifth tier firm all the time to justify Amnesty or push a crummy bought off hack like Carly
We see their lame push polls all the time .
Since Cruz is a Trump ally so your excuse is beyond tired.

I support Cruz is always used as the fall back smoke screen for the Bush - walker - Rubio posters.

I knew you trolls would be out pushing

[trisham]

Thanks, Jeff Head.

[Haiku Guy]

His argument was a yuge wall if you’d been paying attention.

Sounds Hugh and series to me...

[Irish Eyes]

Watching Bret’s show on FNC now. Panel is really down on Trump.