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To: DH
DH, it might be helpful if you informed yourself a bit before making half-cocked assertions about today's educators.

If we teachers physically restrained or struck students in the manner you are suggesting, we would have lawsuits brought against us and possible termination of employment. It is not the TEACHERS who are the problem here; it is our SOCIETY. We have, as a society, become a wussified culture. Can you whip your child's behind these days without fear of CPS knocking on your door?

If we were ALLOWED to respond in kind as teachers used to, many of us WOULD DO EXACTLY THAT.

4 posted on 09/16/2015 4:42:36 AM PDT by EnigmaticAnomaly ("With the demonrats in charge, we find ourselves living in an ineptocracy.")
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To: EnigmaticAnomaly

You are most likely entirely correct, but you also have this thing called a Union that propagates the opposite. Now you are in a Catch 22 situation and only you teachers have the ability to have any effect on reigning it in. There is one candidate’s supporter who is highlighting Walker’s wishes to emasculate and even eliminate public sector unions.

Although I agree 100% on his newly polished campaign “promise” I have my doubts he would actually be able to do anything about it if he were to win the Presidency race. As an administrator for a powerful candidate who is able to take a populist wave and wash out the establishment politicians along the way, he may have the support and numbers to make it happen.

Remember, all 435 Congressional seats are also on the same primary ballots, in addition to 34 Senate seats, and it is in our hands to cull those anti-establishment people to primary the democrats and especially the GOPe. David Brat provided us the model.


5 posted on 09/16/2015 4:56:41 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: EnigmaticAnomaly

I’d say it’s 50/50. Rules have changed and that makes it a problem for teachers to do what they need to do in many cases but then again there’s a lot of teachers who just shouldn’t be teaching period.

“possible termination” now a days is unlikely with teachers unions. If you’ve achieved tenure an indefinite paid leave period pending transfer or arbitration.

My only advice to any teacher is is own your classroom from the first day. Any weakness invites trouble.

Inner city schools aren’t schools anyway they’re more like day boarding kennels for animals.


8 posted on 09/16/2015 4:59:33 AM PDT by maddog55 (America Rising a new Civil War needs to happen.)
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To: EnigmaticAnomaly

I believe that you are one of the few teachers who are not “new age” types. I feel terribly sorry for you.

However, teachers as a whole have become so politically correct along with all levels of scholastic management that they have only themselves to blame for what they face today.

Most teachers are liberals...big time! They march in “lockstep” with government propaganda and progressive beliefs, thusly blindly transmitting these beliefs and social behaviours to their students.

Come on! Apparently you have been teaching long enough to have seen these changes and you are clearly aware of what will happen if you go against the will of the group.

It is by no accident that schools now let children learn the good things about “gender identity” and “gender neutral” bathrooms and biased “black studies,” “racial atrocities” by whites from the beginning of time, and the oppression of women by males.

Believe me, I am VERY INFORMED to what is happening in our schools (from K to college) and they are the zoo from which Political Correctness exits from to taint a once great society.


9 posted on 09/16/2015 5:01:08 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: EnigmaticAnomaly
It is not the TEACHERS who are the problem here; it is our SOCIETY.

The "SOCIETY" is the product of generations of teachers. The deliberate dumbing down of America has been a steady and intentional process that for the most part was cheered by the teachers' unions and implemented for grant money. It was planned from the very beginnings of public education. So was "sexual education," that bred the "SOCIETY" you bitch about now (a nebulous attribution invented to avoid accountability). You may not be individually guilty, but collectively, there is no group in America more deserving of misapprobation for the multi-generational damage done than public school teachers' unions. The whole system needs to be devoloved. Here's how.

BTW, those links are enough to keep you busy for about a month.

25 posted on 09/16/2015 5:42:09 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (CIAO Trump: Conservative In Appearance Only)
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To: EnigmaticAnomaly; Sasparilla; mazda77

Catch 22

1. Most teachers are left wing enablers who make excuses for the poor behavior of all students, minorities in particular, yet they are surprised and indignant when those students turn on them. (This reminds me of the bear lover who was eaten by a bear.)

2. Blacks whine and complain that black students need black teachers, yet when they succeed in having entire school systems run by blacks with all or nearly all black teachers, those students’ scores get worse. This is like having children insist that they should run the household and when parents abdicate responsibility and give the kids free rein the house deteriorates into chaos.

3. The 0vomit administration warns against racial bias in suspensions or expulsions. This is a code word for quotas. 0vomit wants blacks and whites suspended in equal numbers or equal proportions. Equal numbers/proportions would be bias. It is NOT bias if you suspend students for the same offenses. True bias would be suspending a student of one race and letting a student of a different race skate for the same infraction.

4. Healthy self-esteem comes from achievement. It does not come from chanting that you are important or being constantly told that you are important (#blacklivesmatter). People who get by by conning and scamming others and by playing the system will never have healthy self-esteem. The real message they internalize is that they are too incompetent to make it on their own merit, so they need a handicapping system to give them an unfair leg up. (Harrison Bergeron)

5. Achievement comes from hard work. Most hard work involves failing and then picking yourself up and trying again. Having a grade promotion, diploma handed to you after little or no effort and no discernible improvement in knowledge or ability is NOT achievement. It is delusion. Just because the imposter in the White House got there on no perceptible achievement or competence doesn’t mean that everyone can. (Post Turtle). People like 0vomit who are elevated to undeserved positions which they have no ability or qualification or intelligence to handle are put there by clever and accomplished (and evil) puppeteers.


31 posted on 09/16/2015 6:28:32 AM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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