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Confirmed: Republicans like Democratic ideas better when they’re Trump’s
Hotair ^ | 09/02/2015 | AllahPundit

Posted on 09/02/2015 7:24:16 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Lucky for me that I’ve never thought my blogging made a lick of difference to anyone or else reading this last night would have left me looking for a new job. HuffPo came up with a simple yet brutally effective way of testing Republicans’ tolerance for Trump’s ideological heresies: They polled people on universal health care, affirmative action, the Iran deal, and Social Security and simply swapped out Trump’s endorsement of the policy in each question for some prominent Democrat’s. Would Republicans like the Iran deal any better if they thought it had Donald Trump’s approval and not just John Kerry’s?

As it turns out, they sure would. For some segment of the GOP, it seems, politics is nothing more than Team Red/Team Blue tribalism. Policy differences are mere details.

Which is to say, if it wasn’t before, the “MacGuffinization of American politics” is now a bipartisan phenomenon.

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Kerry’s endorsement of the deal generates a 52/20 D/R split. Trump’s endorsement turns that into … near parity, 54/53. By sheer coincidence, within 10 minutes of this HuffPo survey dropping yesterday, Charles Cooke went live on NRO’s website with a new post agonizing over how Trumpmania seems to have convinced some conservatives to discard their principles overnight. How can it be, he wondered, that the segment of the GOP that’s complained most loudly about RINO deviations from conservative orthodoxy over the past five years would suddenly clasp the biggest RINO of them all to its breast?

A handful of months ago many of those who now make up Trump’s rank-and-file were ideological perfectionists who hated the GOP’s leadership, believed to their souls that the country was becoming a socialist hell-hole, and insisted vehemently that they had sat out the 2012 election because Mitt Romney was such a terrible squish. Today, by dint of some dark and unholy magic, these wannabe purists have hitched their wagons to Donald Trump, the greatest shape-shifter of them all.

Thus it is that an array of self-described “true conservatives” have put themselves in the awkward position of supposing that an “assault weapons” ban isn’t that big a deal after all. Thus have the pioneers of litmus testing lined up obediently behind a guy whose position on Planned Parenthood is identical to Hillary Clinton’s. Thus have the Scalia-citing “constitutional conservatives” taken to lionizing a man whose primary criticism of the liberty-shredding Kelo v. New London ruling was that it didn’t go far enough. Thus have the screaming eagles of Twitter and beyond taken to contending that the class-conscious tax hikes that the America-hating communist Bernie Sanders proposes are akin to apple-pie-and-motherhood when they’re floated by Donald Trump.

Little did we know how quickly “take America back” would disintegrate in the face of a little pop culture.

“We have reached a moment,” Steve Schmidt told WaPo, “where conservatism isn’t defined by issues anymore for a big percentage of the country.” Is that true? Is “conservatism” really more of a cultural attitude now, at least in its populist version, than a collection of policy principles derived from the conviction that the surest way to maximize individual freedom is to limit government? Cooke writes of Trump’s heresies, “Honesty requires us to acknowledge that had President Obama endorsed exactly the same policies and rhetoric, the reaction from the Trumpkins would have been little short of nuclear.” He’s right, and if he’s right about that, how is Schmidt wrong? If anything, Cooke’s error is in assuming that Trump convinced people to discard principles that were dearly held rather than considering that it was something else all along about conservatism that’s been dearly held and that the principles were accepted only because they were assumed to be part and parcel of that something else. If Trump can protect that “something else,” whatever it may be, who cares if the policies that have traditionally been bundled with it get thrown away?

Two important caveats to HuffPo’s study, though. One: Trump was the only Republican they tested, a bad oversight given the assumption that he has some singular talismanic ability to move conservative opinion on policy through his cult of personality. I’d be curious to see how voters would react if they thought Ben Carson or Marco Rubio or Scott Walker supported the Iran deal or universal health care or whatever. I doubt the effect on righty opinion would be as great as Trump’s endorsement, but I bet it wouldn’t be zero either. To some unknown extent, what you’re seeing in these numbers isn’t a “Trump phenomenon,” it’s a partisan phenomenon. Tell a group of low-information Republicans that someone on their side, whom they respect, has endorsed affirmative action and you’ll see the numbers move, assuredly. The question is, by how much?

Caveat two: It ain’t just Republicans who suddenly find themselves questioning their principles when they learn that some famous political figure supports or opposes one of their core beliefs. Which party moved more in this test of universal health care upon learning that Donald Trump thinks it’s a good idea?

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Republican support for universal health care rose 28 points thanks to Trump’s seal of approval. Democratic support for universal health care dropped, however, by … 36 points. How many Dems out there are true believers in the ObamaCare dream and how many are mindlessly in favor for no better reason than that Barack Obama thinks it’s a keen idea? Note too that it’s not just a matter of the sheer number of Dems changing their position here, it’s a matter of going from heavy majority support to less than 50 percent in favor. Trump’s backing can turn an 82 percent Democratic consensus into a 46 percent plurality. And if you think that’s a fluke result, try this one:

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Republican support for affirmative action rises 18 points with Trump’s backing but it’s still a small share of the party that’s in favor. Democratic support for affirmative action drops 19 points with Trump’s endorsement, once again crossing from a majority consensus (64 percent) to a plurality one (45 percent). Many more issues would need to be surveyed in this way to try to draw a firm conclusion about which party has more hacks willing to go along with whatever their leadership says, but there’s at least as much reason from this to believe Democrats would win that contest as Republicans would. Any lefties out there up for some Cooke-style soul-searching about how quickly liberals drop their principles once they find out that the guy from “The Apprentice” agrees with them?

Exit question: How do you do a poll like HuffPo’s and not test people on what Trump’s support does to opinion on whether we should tax the rich? That’s probably his most prominent break from conservative orthodoxy to date, one that threatens to upend partisan polarization in Washington if it catches on. Someone test that, please.


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1 posted on 09/02/2015 7:24:16 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Trump’s populism is against the global elites and the Washington establishment.

Who look down on average Americans.

I don’t think its an ideological test.


2 posted on 09/02/2015 7:28:03 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

The GOP establishment is enemy number one to me now


3 posted on 09/02/2015 7:30:47 PM PDT by ground_fog
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To: SeekAndFind

Another RINO/Dem running as a conservative Nah, couldn’t be, could it? We’d suss that right away!


4 posted on 09/02/2015 7:31:49 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: SeekAndFind




Donald Trump is a Hard-Core Conservative.

5 posted on 09/02/2015 7:34:46 PM PDT by onyx (PLEASE DO YOUR PART TO HELP COMPLETE THIS FReepathon!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why are you surprised. People don’t trust Democrats.


6 posted on 09/02/2015 7:42:32 PM PDT by Lopeover (2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ugh, this is silly because the GOP has rubber stamped all of Obama policies. He has gotten more out of a GOP House and Senate than he got from the democrats, so the premise of this piece is stupid and blind.


7 posted on 09/02/2015 7:44:20 PM PDT by dforest
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To: SeekAndFind
How can it be, he wondered, that the segment of the GOP that’s complained most loudly about RINO deviations from conservative orthodoxy over the past five years would suddenly clasp the biggest RINO of them all to its breast?

How can it be? Some people would gladly cut off their nose (vote for a RINO) just to spite their face (the GOPe).

I understand the anger with the Establishment, but we have several candidates who have executive experience, are proven conservative, and are not members of the Establishment. And none of them is Trump.

8 posted on 09/02/2015 7:49:05 PM PDT by Monitor ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false-front for the urge to rule it." - H. L. Mencken)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve seen similar “polls” where they take Obama policies and attribute them to some Dem enemy, with similar results.

Much of voting has become tribal, where we vote for our tribe, not ideas.


9 posted on 09/02/2015 7:49:43 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: ground_fog
The GOP establishment is enemy number one to me now

Mine too. The media is #2. Nothing gets better til both are destroyed.
10 posted on 09/02/2015 7:55:33 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: SeekAndFind

A lot of words to say what everyone knows: people want common sense solutions, not party rhetoric.

Other than giving political writers something to write about this doesn’t make any difference or Trump would not be in the position he is.


11 posted on 09/02/2015 8:17:34 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: SeekAndFind

Trump wants to build the wall and he tells people who quite deserve it to go eff themselves. That’s more than I expect to get from any of the others.


12 posted on 09/02/2015 8:21:17 PM PDT by I Hired Craig Livingstone (DT16. Deal with it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is hilarious!

Trump backers will swallow anything he hands them.


13 posted on 09/02/2015 8:24:47 PM PDT by GeronL (Cruz is for real, 100%)
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To: I Hired Craig Livingstone

All these pundits and consultants are perfectly happy with Reoublicans being the Washington Generals. They get their consulting fees and payoffs. Until they are tossed we have no hope..period.They would be fine with Clinton and the status quo.


14 posted on 09/02/2015 8:25:15 PM PDT by ground_fog
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To: onyx

lol

What was he a year ago? Three? Ten?


15 posted on 09/02/2015 8:25:38 PM PDT by GeronL (Cruz is for real, 100%)
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To: SeekAndFind

You have to remember, Trump could eat babies on the stump and his supporters will hail it as a wonderful new snack. Ann Coulter even said he could perform abortions in the Oval Office and she would not care.

So many people are willing to burn their Conservative Card for this egomaniacal cartoonish buffoon it is sad. He could shift on everything he is saying 180 degrees and they will still support him.


16 posted on 09/02/2015 8:28:41 PM PDT by GeronL (Cruz is for real, 100%)
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To: SeekAndFind

Silly fun. Would be more fun if they had tested the effect of others’ endorsements.


17 posted on 09/02/2015 8:29:00 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: ground_fog

They’d much rather lose with Heb Boosh than win with Trump, that’s for sure.


18 posted on 09/02/2015 8:29:07 PM PDT by I Hired Craig Livingstone (DT16. Deal with it.)
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To: GeronL

I really don’t think is what it is.

People aren’t swallowing anything the GOP is trying to hand out anymore.

Nothing.

Electing “conservatives” has gotten America nowhere but down, and I mean far, far down.

Trump says he’s going to stop the illegal invasion. Maybe he will, maybe he won’t.

But everyone of knows exactly what the GOP is going to do, and that is destroy us with their idiot schemes, just like the rest of our traitorous government, of which they are a part.

Trump is filling the leadership vacuum they left.

It’s their own fault for being so utterly dishonest, and now whatever is going to happen as a result is going to happen, and that’s it.


19 posted on 09/02/2015 8:43:52 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: GeronL

Well, Trump doesn’t east babies on the stump, but the GOP does, in fact, FUND Planned Parenthood.

And you know what the Conservative Card means? Do you know what the practical result of everyone’s Conservative Card is?

Nothing.

Bupkis.

Zip.

Zero.

Nada.

Nothing.

In the trash it goes.


20 posted on 09/02/2015 8:46:54 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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