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Paul Krugman "What Ails The World Right Now Is That Governments Aren’t Deep Enough In Debt"
Zero Hedge ^ | 08/22/2015 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 08/22/2015 11:37:31 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

This was written by a Nobel prize winning economist without a trace or sarcasm, irony or humor. It is excerpted, and presented without commentary.

From the New York Times:

Debt Is Good

... the point simply that public debt isn’t as bad as legend has it? Or can government debt actually be a good thing?

Believe it or not, many economists argue that the economy needs a sufficient amount of public debt out there to function well. And how much is sufficient? Maybe more than we currently have. That is, there’s a reasonable argument to be made that part of what ails the world economy right now is that governments aren’t deep enough in debt.

I know that may sound crazy. After all, we’ve spent much of the past five or six years in a state of fiscal panic, with all the Very Serious People declaring that we must slash deficits and reduce debt now now now or we’ll turn into Greece, Greece I tell you.

But the power of the deficit scolds was always a triumph of ideology over evidence, and a growing number of genuinely serious people — most recently Narayana Kocherlakota, the departing president of the Minneapolis Fed — are making the case that we need more, not less, government debt.

Why?

One answer is that issuing debt is a way to pay for useful things, and we should do more of that when the price is right. The United States suffers from obvious deficiencies in roads, rails, water systems and more; meanwhile, the federal government can borrow at historically low interest rates. So this is a very good time to be borrowing and investing in the future, and a very bad time for what has actually happened: an unprecedented decline in public construction spending adjusted for population growth and inflation.

Beyond that, those very low interest rates are telling us something about what markets want. I’ve already mentioned that having at least some government debt outstanding helps the economy function better. How so? The answer, according to M.I.T.’s Ricardo Caballero and others, is that the debt of stable, reliable governments provides “safe assets” that help investors manage risks, make transactions easier and avoid a destructive scramble for cash.

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[L]ow interest rates, Mr. Kocherlakota declares, are a problem. When interest rates on government debt are very low even when the economy is strong, there’s not much room to cut them when the economy is weak, making it much harder to fight recessions.  There may also be consequences for financial stability: Very low returns on safe assets may push investors into too much risk-taking — or for that matter encourage another round of destructive Wall Street hocus-pocus.

What can be done? Simply raising interest rates, as some financial types keep demanding (with an eye on their own bottom lines), would undermine our still-fragile recovery. What we need are policies that would permit higher rates in good times without causing a slump. And one such policy, Mr. Kocherlakota argues, would be targeting a higher level of debt.

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Now, in principle the private sector can also create safe assets, such as deposits in banks that are universally perceived as sound....

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At this point we stopped reading.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: debt; economy; government; paulkrugman
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1 posted on 08/22/2015 11:37:31 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Pure insanity


2 posted on 08/22/2015 11:39:59 AM PDT by GeronL (Cruz is for real, 100%)
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To: SeekAndFind
This was written by a Nobel prize winning economist without a trace or sarcasm, irony or humor.

Did he get the Nobel prize for telling the most absurd lie with a straight face?

3 posted on 08/22/2015 11:40:18 AM PDT by oldbrowser (The kangaroos have taken over the supreme court.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Krugman is a semi-literate, semi-intelligent dweeb who got a ‘gimme’ from the nobie for finding a rounding error ( and didn’t have the guts, courage or integrity to say so and turn it down)

Oh, btw, he may be educated.


4 posted on 08/22/2015 11:41:57 AM PDT by This_far
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To: SeekAndFind

What the world needs now is societies with people who possess self-disciple and industriousness.

And then, Liberty.


5 posted on 08/22/2015 11:42:27 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I wonder if leftist like Krugman will freak if we have a world wide Bankruptcy and just start fresh with mandated constitutionally sound economic policies. i.e., governments can not borrow money nor spend more than their citizens will give them.

Year of Jubilee


6 posted on 08/22/2015 11:42:52 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Restore Liberty!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Belongs in the Home for LNPW’s (Loony Nobel Prize Winners).


7 posted on 08/22/2015 11:43:17 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: SeekAndFind

Zimbabwe needs more. I think they are only at 79.6 billion percent.. Venezuela is a litt over 100%.


8 posted on 08/22/2015 11:43:26 AM PDT by rey
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To: SeekAndFind

My BIL was a heroin abuser. His problem was that he couldn’t get enough.

I think it’s a good analogy.


9 posted on 08/22/2015 11:43:55 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: SeekAndFind

TRANSLATION: Government has not financially-enslaved the peasants enough yet.


10 posted on 08/22/2015 11:46:38 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (To defeat the democRATs, we must first defeat the Republicans.)
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s like saying if you’re overweight, you should eat more.


11 posted on 08/22/2015 11:46:40 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. Mahatma Gandhi)
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To: oldbrowser

He got his “prize” from a bunch of big government socialists for proposing that big government socialism is the way to go.

History, reality, and experience be damned.


12 posted on 08/22/2015 11:48:56 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: RoosterRedux

Krugman says first rule of holes is wrong.


13 posted on 08/22/2015 11:49:36 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

“My BIL was a heroin abuser. His problem was that he couldn’t get enough.”

Since you say “was,” I assume he is deceased?

That’s a GREAT analogy!


14 posted on 08/22/2015 11:51:27 AM PDT by Calpublican (The Republican Party is corrupt!!!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Beyond that, those very low interest rates are telling us something about what markets want.

They tell us nothing about the markets.

They tell us the Fed has decreed that interest rates be essentially zero, so the Federal Government interest expenditure doesn't blow up in its face.

At least not right away.

15 posted on 08/22/2015 11:53:20 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Paul needs to have a little talk with Dave Ramsey.


16 posted on 08/22/2015 11:55:07 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Calpublican

Actually, no. Under threats of divorce from his wife, and with other health problems, he seems to have given it up, for now.

He’s pretty decent when clean and sober, but he’s psychologically needy... I’d say the odds are below 50-50 that it will last.


17 posted on 08/22/2015 11:56:04 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Calvin Locke
He got his “prize” from a bunch of big government socialists for proposing that big government socialism is the way to go.

Give the elites an intellectual basis for believing that their indulgences are ordained by science and they'll give you prizes and accolades galore.

Freud is a household name today because his teachings could be interpreted to equate the disciplining and control of sexual license with the causes of mental illness. The elites seized on his theories to throw all that aside and open the door to a Pandora's box of sexual dysfunction and betrayal. All good for you, because Freud (supposedly) said so.

18 posted on 08/22/2015 11:58:44 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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To: SeekAndFind

If debt is so good, why are Greece, Spain, Italy and Portugal having such a tough time?

Saying debt is good is Big Lie therapy for innumerate fools who don’t understand how compound interest works.


19 posted on 08/22/2015 11:59:34 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: oldbrowser
Did he get the Nobel prize for telling the most absurd lie with a straight face?

I believe in this writer's case he got the award for kissing their A$$ correctly.

What do I mean by CORRECTLY?

CORRECTLY: "Not on the left side.. not on the right side.. but right in the groove!"

20 posted on 08/22/2015 12:04:16 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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