Hadrian's wall in scotland. It appears the wall worked and kept the (illegal) Scots out of Roman England.
Posted on 08/21/2015 10:42:06 AM PDT by Biggirl
NACO, Arizona — As a motorcade carrying GOP presidential candidate Dr. Ben Carson down to a service road behind part of the border fence that was built here, there were no Border Patrol agents in sight. The fence—which local law enforcement from the Cochise County sheriff’s office confirms could easily be cut through with a blow-torch, something illegal aliens do quite frequently—ends a few miles up the road.
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Time to build a massive wall.
LOL Go Doc Go!
I’m down for a manned, armed dual fence with a mile of free fire zone on the Mexican side. It’s difficult to see through a wall unless it is built with points like old forts.
I do like his idea of patrolling with armed drones. It would probably be cheaper than sniper and machine gun towers. In truth, if we simply started shooting border jumpers as they cross far fewer of them would die than die in the desert north of the border because the traffic would slow to a tiny trickle. Same goes for Europe. Italy would save many more lives if the Italian Air Force would sink a couple of big overladen invasion votes within sight of the Algerian coast. The boats would stop coming and far fewer would drown from trying to cross in leaky top heavy boats that capsize than would die in the air attacks. That is the sort of theory that produced the nuke attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Only the left thinks otherwise. Nothing new.
How would he handle North Korea and South Korea about to face off?
It’s not like that potential war can take three tablets of Mifeprex and just be gone as Carson thinks children conceived of rape or incest should be.
I like a solid concrete wall 60 feet tall, 40 feet wide, with an 80 foot deep footing. All 60 grade # 12 steel reinforced of course.
Interior corridor 10 feet by 10 feet with seismic sensors every 20 meters to make sure the are not digging under the wall. Sally ports on US side only for rapid response to interior of wall and top of wall. Think Maginot Line, the Germans never went through it, they went around it or over it. That can be addressed by anchoring the wall in the Pacific and the Gulf. Anti-Illegal-Alien-shipping assets in the Gulf and Pacific to prevent them slipping around the
edges. Anti-Illegal-Alien-Air assets every 1000 meters along the top of the wall to prevent overflights, and Ma Deuce revetments every 100 meters to suppress mob assaults.
Every thing dead on their side can be left to rot, any leakers can be tossed back over to rot.
Armed drones don’t do anything if you refuse to shoot. A wall is a physical barrier that would have to be overcome. I like Carson and think he’s a very accomplished individual but he comes off as incredibly naive and I don’t know how being a brilliant surgeon translates or prepares him to being head of the executive branch of the US so I don’t understand the enthusiasm for his candidacy. I think he should show other experience before becoming President. I for one have had enough of on the job training Barky.
Israel has a massive wall.
In the middle of the river?
Hadrian's wall in scotland. It appears the wall worked and kept the (illegal) Scots out of Roman England.
Like he says being a politician is not brain surgery, anyone can do it.
Excellent work jpsb. Hadrian’s wall is the perfect analogy, large walls with garrison forts at regularly spaced intervals is an excellent model to build the boarder fence, we can call it “Trump’s wall” or after the President who builds it.
Wait, what? A border fence is not very effective without boots on the ground and technology? I am shocked! /s
“I think there are ways to have physical barriers like this, but people are smart,” Carson said. “Given time and isolation, they will manage to get through that. But they will have a much harder time getting through it if you have other people trying to stop them from getting through.”
“I think the border wall is a good start,” Carson added. “But in and of itself it’s not going to be that effective. It’s going to require human beings to be involved and we have human beings who can do this job.”
“How easy would it be just to have a few drones flying through here?” Carson asked Dannels.
“A fence is only as good as the people behind it, and that’s the key,” Dannels replied. “You can put in all the infrastructure you want but you need good people behind it.
I’m in San Diego, 15 minutes from Mexico, where we have double walls, and triple walls along the Tijuana River, plus stadium lighting, motion detectors, drones and human patrols 24-7.
Our latest problems are tunnels under the walls and 70 miles of oceanfront in the county.
Also a large percentage of illegals are visa overstayers. People who came here legally but never left when they were supoosed to.
And Obama grants Green Cards to 135,000-140,000 (depending on the year) “Lawful Permanent Residents” from Mexico.
The Mecicans would have those drones shot down the day they were first put up.
Know your enemy.
Very bad comment from a candidate who's supposed to be informed on major points. However, iirc, he and Trump are the only ones who've ventured that far out of the air conditioning.
You have to figure the wall advocates as having a sentiment
that comes from a good place. I too want an absolute barrier.
A lot of them may simply be ignorant of the fact that more
than half of the border is in Texas and all of that border
is a river.. and we ain’t giving the dang river to Mexico.
But “wall” is not a one-size-fits-all solution.
It’d be nice if it were.
“like Carson and think he’s a very accomplished individual but he comes off as incredibly naive and I don’t know how being a brilliant surgeon translates or prepares him to being head of the executive branch of the US so I don’t understand the enthusiasm for his candidacy.”
He IS naive. Many Freepers have a better understanding of the issues facing the nation than he does. Yesterday he made this comment:
“We should stop them at the border,” Carson said. “They shouldn’t be 70 miles inside the border. We should stop them at the border. As the sheriff indicated, if we were to take like 6,000 troops and put them at the border, you wouldn’t have those people coming inside the border.”
No $hit Sherlock...
“The Mecicans would have those drones shot down the day they were first put up.
Know your enemy.”
Drones (unarmed) are being used. Haven’t heard of any being shot down yet. I doubt most people would even know they’re up there, let alone have the means to shoot one down.
We do not need a fence. We need 150 meters of plowed flat ground. Mine it, post signs on the border in Spanish, English, Arabic, and Chinese.
The sign should say, if you walk across this line you will be killed by landmines. It would be dangerous for us to recover you if you are injured. You will die there and be left there.
Relative to illegals inside the United States it is really not a difficult problem. We must have absolute E verify for all that are employed. If you employ someone without using E verify fine the employer 1000 dollars for each day an illegal works for them.
Deny any and all social welfare benefits to anyone that is not a United States Citizen or legal resident. The illegals will no longer have employment nor a means to survive. They will leave voluntarily. If they do not have the means to get home, we should buy the ticket for them.
The problem is solvable. The reason that I want a landmine field is once employment is no longer an option the only ones that will try to cross the border illegally are drug runners and terrorists. I like the concept of them being killed.
We use drones to take out bad guys and accidentally kill innocents at the same time. Several hundred illegals die each year trying to cross the deserts of the Southwest trying to gain illegal entry. If we had a landmine field there would probably be a handful killed verses the hundreds today that die of thirst and heat stroke and also rape murder by coyotes. What choice above is the moral choice or rather least immoral and is it immoral to protect your border with force?
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