Donald Trump Praises Canada's Socialist Health Care System: 'It Works'

weekly standard ^ | august 6, 2015 | john mccormack

[microgood]

We met a guy from Denmark at a Las Vegas show and he said the income tax there is 45% (quickly graduates to that) and the sales tax is 24%. They better have good health care at that level of taxation.

[Buckeye McFrog]

Yeah, I agree. Donald has just scrooooood the pooch with that comment.

If he ever needs bypass surgery I highly doubt he’ll be heading to Montreal.

[impimp]

Trump is finished. He has no core conservative principles. Cruz has known what is right to believe in since high school.

[Buckeye McFrog]

I had a young colleague who spent half of his senior year of college in Denmark. He says life there is basically unaffordable.

[nitzy]

I think I heard one time at some point the the 2000’s there were more MRIs in the city of Philadelphia than in all of Canada.

[9YearLurker]

Healthcare delayed is healthcare denied—and that’s what they have with the single-payer systems in Canada and the UK.

Here’s Scotland’s commitment to meet an 18-week referral for hospital care standard. 18 weeks—that’s over 4 months!

http://www.isdscotland.org/Health-Topics/Waiting-Times/Diagnostics/

[Mister Da]

I met a British couple who immigrated to Canada to escape the poor NHS in Britain. The wife was having health problems & being treated inadequately with long wait times.

Upon Joining the Canadian health care system, she needed some tests. Canada told her it would be 6 months before the tests could be done. That wait might have killed her.

They contacted a doctor in Detroit who administered the tests & follow-on treatment with in 3 weeks. This probably saved her life.

Canada’s health care system is only marginally better than in Britain, & now with Obamacare, the US health care system is failing, too.

[mj1234]

we visit Canada every year-

Our northern neighbor had a HEART ATTACK-
and needed EMERGENCY bypass (they were able to stabilize him)- guess what??- 6 month wait time! for surgery!

Was FORCED to not work- their recommendation-

GO TO THE U.S.A.!- ( but he would need to PAY!)

He could not afford it.. so waited for his 6 month
appointment- he made it AND is doing O.K.-

lucky I guess-

[Catsrus]

yes, it’s a value added tax and is added in every country where they have “free health care.”

[Catsrus]

No, it isn’t a direct quote. He never said single payer - he was referring to a safety net for the poor.

[arthurus]

Yes. It works, nut not for the good health of the citizenry. It works for the health and prosperity of the bureaucrats and politicians.

[Sgt_Schultze]

Here's a short video illustrating some of the perils of placing your health into the hands of somebody else, with no alternative.

[arthurus]

He has also said that he would return the illegals but then invite the non felons among them back. The dialogue between him and Hussein is what makes him useful. It seems set to make some formerly tabu subjects legitimate to discuss, like maybe the secrets of Hussein's education and origins. Hussein himself just opened up the subject in his sneering putdown of Trump. If Trump fires back in character the Birth Certificate becomes a subject of debate in the open. Only Trump can do that. I would like to see Trump lead in the primaries right up to the point toward the end where Cruz actually has the delegate count to win.
Of course then there are the superdelegates that can be used to negate the primaries if one candidate does not have a large majority of the count. I don't think the Republicans have done that before but the Democrats did it in 2008 and the Gope learns from example. I still expect the Bush or a substitute to be the Nominee but, of course, not the next President.

[sheikdetailfeather]

http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/trump—people-tired-of-incompetent-politicians-498049603754

8-4-15

At 7:00 in the audio the panel asks Trump about single payer:

“It works for Canada. Not the U.S. I like private enterprise, create competition, private system, open the state lines. I want a lot of bidders. As for those who cannot afford healthcare, you have got to take care of those people. About 25% in this category. Work out deals with hospitals who are not doing that well right now.”

[arthurus]

Single Payer cannot work as a superior or even a moderately good system for the dispensation of medicine. It eliminates competition and the incentive for increasing efficiency and there is no incentive for R&D because a single payer i.e. the government won't pay for it. A single payer system must quickly go to rationing of medicine and cutting off of patients at the older end of the spectrum with an age limit that must slide lower as the system requires evermore resources just to continue at all.
Consider that almost all if not all of R&D in the world is done for the American market because America is the only large country that permits the Pharmaceutical companies, Big Pharma if you will, to recoup the costs of that R&D in the patent protected prices of their new drugs. That is why those prices are so high. The companies sell those drugs at the generic prices in other countries that do not permit patent pricing because those prices return enough to offset the ongoing manufacture of the drugs while doing nothing to retire the R&D investment.

When people are aghast at the monster "profits" and sky high prices of new drugs they should be reminded that without those prices in a limited patent period those drugs would not exist at all and those drugs WILL become available at generic rates when the patent expires.

[riverdawg]

It's actually worse because Canada essentially prohibits the private, fee-for-service safety valve that the UK has. The only alternative for Canadians is “medical tourism” to the US.

[arthurus]

If Trump maintains his attitudes and delivery, no expositions will hurt him, may well enhance him. The brilliance of the fireworks mutes the effects of charges no matter how well founded.

[Leep]

Am i way off or is the problem with health care is millions of people not paying a dime for received health care services. As well as illegals flooding into the US.
Not to mention, generally, fraud,waste and abuse?
So, then hospitals are forced to raise their prices.
I’ve read that doctors, more or less, double their cost because ‘assistance” only covers half?
The government picks up the tab and raising taxes to cover it? Also, government is very inefficient and raises the cost as well?

[A Formerly Proud Canadian]

Each Province is different. Under the Canada Health Act, all Provinces are required to provide universal health care but what is covered in AB is different than what is covered in SK or ON. Each Province has different coverage so that if you need treatment in say, ON that isn’t covered by AB Health, you have to pay cash for the service. This explains why I’ve been told that even if I am visiting out-of-Province, let alone out-of-country, it is wise to have Blue Cross.

Apparently in QU, they will not accept any other Provincial Health Care coverage because Québec is Québec. Blue Cross is most definitely a requirement when visiting QU. Ah, the joys of two ‘nations’ living in one country!

If you can’t wait for covered services that have a long waiting period, and you have the $$$’s, you can jump the line. For some services that are covered by Health Care, there are private clinics that are user pay, for example ‘Gimbel Eye Centres’. Also, many well to do Canadians travel to the US for operations and treatments, including MANY Canadian politicians! My ex-wife’s aunt, married to a wealthy businessman, was able to get a hip replacement by going Stateside. The wait in AB was at least eight months, but on their regular winter vacation in AZ, she got it done. No muss, no fuss because they had the money to have it done.

[frnewsjunkie]

Trump said it worked for those countries... and would not work here!!!!! Stop the false accusations in the headline.