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DONALD TRUMP ENDORSES AMNESTY FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS [DISAPPOINTING, BUT NOT SURPRISING]
Frontpage Mag ^ | 07/26/2015 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 07/26/2015 5:49:19 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Disappointing, but not surprising.

The depressing reality though that is that most of the Republican field has endorsed amnesty in one form or another. So this isn't much of a surprise. Trump is using his own vocabulary, but he's echoing the same amnesty talking points you could hear from Marco Rubio... or Barack Obama.

During Friday's interview, Trump said the U.S. should take a two-step approach to the 11 million undocumented immigrants currently living in the country.

"Well, the first thing we do is take the bad ones — of which there are, unfortunately, quite a few," said Trump, who owns three New Jersey golf courses and once owned three Atlantic City casinos. "We take the bad ones and get 'em the hell out. We get 'em out."

But he said the country should take a different approach with "the other ones" — i.e., undocumented immigrants who have "done a good job" since arriving in the U.S.

"I'm a very big believer in the merit system," Trump said. "I have to tell you: Some of these people have been here, they've done a good job. You know, in some cases, sadly, they've been living under the shadows. ... If somebody's been outstanding, we try and work something out.

"But before we do anything, we have to secure the border because the border is like having no border," he added.

I'm sure some people will be tempted to cheer this, but compare it to Obama's own amnesty executive order.

These executive actions crack down on illegal immigration at the border, prioritize deporting felons not families, and require certain undocumented immigrants to pass a criminal background check and pay their fair share of taxes as they register to temporarily stay in the U.S. without fear of deportation.

Cracking Down on Illegal Immigration at the Border:  The President’s actions increase the chances that anyone attempting to cross the border illegally will be caught and sent back. Continuing the surge of resources that effectively reduced the number of unaccompanied children crossing the border illegally this summer, the President’s actions will also centralize border security command-and-control to continue to crack down on illegal immigration.

Deporting Felons, Not Families: The President’s actions focus on the deportation of people who threaten national security and public safety. He has directed immigration enforcement to place anyone suspected of terrorism, violent criminals, gang members, and recent border crossers at the top of the deportation priority list.

Deporting the "bad people" first is already an Obama talking point. People may think they can trust Trump, but not Obama or any of the Republicans, but like them, Trump frontloaded rhetoric about enforcement while keeping the amnesty out back.

And "secure the border first" has been the talking point of every Republican amnesty proponent.

Marco Rubio still supports legal status and a slow road to citizenship for millions of undocumented immigrants, but now says the government must convince Americans the border is secure before taking those steps.

Trump had already indicated support for amnesty earlier, now he's being clearer about it.

This is in line with what CNN’s Chris Moody reported Trump saying during a press conference in Chicago at the end of June. When asked what he would do about the illegal immigrants already residing in the country once the border was secured, Trump replied, “give them a path,” according to Moody.

When The Daily Caller sought clarification at the time from the Trump campaign, a senior adviser replied with a circuitous answer that emphasized that Trump wanted to secure the border and didn’t believe in “amnesty,” but wouldn’t explicitly reject a pathway to legalization.

Nobody likes the A-word, including Rubio and Ryan who spent the better part of a year arguing that legalizing illegal aliens isn't amnesty if they have to pay a fine. Even Obama made that argument.

The next step would be to get Trump to lay out criteria for who gets to stay and how many of them it would apply to, but good luck getting an answer.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: New York; US: Texas
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To: SeekAndFind

Surprise, surprise...


41 posted on 07/26/2015 6:08:12 PM PDT by erod (Chicago Conservative | Cruz or Lose!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Hmm, let's see.. Deport illegal alien felons - ICE has decided to stop doing that until comprehensive amnesty is passed by congress. Build a secure border - ICE has ordered officers out of certain sections, as illegals were going too far to reach the US, and it was too dangerous. But hey, judges are now ordering ICE to release illegals too.

The only real comprehensive immigration reform we really need is enforcing the existing laws on the books. Hammer the businesses who are hiring them, remove the ‘contractor exception’ - oh, we didn't know, we just hired this contractor, see, who said he'd get whomever we needed, oh, and they'll need someone who speaks Spanish to interpret for them. Then go after the money - taxes on wiring of cash or money orders to Mexico (and other countries which have a poor record of controlling their people from entering the US illegally), RICO seizures of those who are housing illegals or otherwise aiding them...

Pretty dang quick, the issue will settle itself - those who want to be US citizens will be left, while a good many who are here on an extended free jobs program will go home.

42 posted on 07/26/2015 6:09:36 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I agree with you. Trump could not make it clearer that step number one is securing the border. Simultaneously, get the invaders (not his word) who are non-productive deported. It's called prioritizing.

He's also said that US citizens have to be put to work.

The DC crowd and their paymasters keep staying vague stuff while no one goes home, the border is no more secure, and H1B Visas are distributed like candy to kids on Halloween.

43 posted on 07/26/2015 6:10:44 PM PDT by grania
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To: SeekAndFind

I cant believe he would be this stupid. Well when he sees his poll numbers drop like a brick he will


44 posted on 07/26/2015 6:10:55 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (B. Hussein Obama: 20 acts of Treason and counting.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Many have learned from Obama....
Saying anything they want..... campaigning..
DO what whatever you damn well please after elected...

Much like Boehner and McConnell do..
Most republicans officials... are post turtles, OR WORSE..

The republican party has a BIG tent... IT’S A CIRCUS..
clowns, fat ladies, bearded transvestites.. dwarves, animal acts, rigging, rubes, roustabouts, and marks..


45 posted on 07/26/2015 6:11:40 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: SeekAndFind

And JUST WHO is to the right of Trump on Illegal Immigration?

...hmmmm....hmmmm....hmmmm

Yep, no answer. Keep trying, Jeb supporters, you won’t get anywhere, even with the title in all caps.


46 posted on 07/26/2015 6:11:48 PM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'profile' page))
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To: SeekAndFind
Maybe you can help.

How does Trump's idea differ from Cruz idea?

Does Ted Cruz have any ideas on what he would do? I can't find any.

47 posted on 07/26/2015 6:12:08 PM PDT by lewislynn ( Hillary = Obama in a pantsuit)
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To: BobL

RE: And JUST WHO is to the right of Trump on Illegal Immigration?

Ted Cruz?


48 posted on 07/26/2015 6:12:26 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: jsanders2001

Trump and Cruz will secure the border and deport criminals and public assistance illegals. The rest will do nothing.
Cruz already has as part of his policy on immigration ending the anchor baby clause.


49 posted on 07/26/2015 6:13:24 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: BobL
And JUST WHO is to the right of Trump on Illegal Immigration?

Yep none.

50 posted on 07/26/2015 6:13:27 PM PDT by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Trump said we can talk about amnesty after the border is secure.

Amnesty is not the issues right. Border has to be secured first. #1 priority after 30+ years of the professional politicians aiding and abetting millions to flood in. Otherwise they'll want an amnesty every 25 years and more and more will continue to flow in.

Kinda of a no brainer.

51 posted on 07/26/2015 6:13:28 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: lewislynn

TED CRUZ ON IMMIGRATION:

http://www.ontheissues.org/Ted_Cruz.htm#Immigration

End Obama’s illegal amnesty via Congress’ checks & balances. (Nov 2014)

Defund amnesty; and refuse any nominees until rescinded. (Nov 2014)

No path to citizenship for 1.65 million illegals in Texas. (Oct 2012)

Give police more power to ask about immigration status. (Jun 2012)

Boots on the ground, plus a wall. (Apr 2012)

Triple the size of the Border Patrol. (Mar 2012)

Strengthen border security and increase enforcement. (Jul 2011)


52 posted on 07/26/2015 6:13:44 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

Well, seriously, what can you do? You can’t send back all 30,000,000. I would hope though, at some point, someone would say if they’ve been here and established their life, have a job, a house, a family then let them stay. But they should have to meet the same requirements of those who come legally and within a reasonable timeframe.

but if they’re on the streets, have been arrested for ANYTHING then they go back.


53 posted on 07/26/2015 6:13:49 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: LuvFreeRepublic

That’s what I think - who the heck is going to toss 30 million people out. The problem wasn’t dealt with years ago when it started happening, so there might be a price to pay for that.

Secure the border, STOP legal immigration from south of your border, throw out EVERYONE who has had trouble with the law, then start looking at what to do with the rest. No welfare, no healthcare, no driver’s licenses, no voting for ANY of them. They might self deport.


54 posted on 07/26/2015 6:14:50 PM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: lewislynn
Cruz: ‘Proud to Defend’ Trump, Expand H-1B Visas For ‘Educated,’ ‘Talented’ Job Creators


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3309118/posts

55 posted on 07/26/2015 6:15:10 PM PDT by proust ("Is this a blip, or is it a catastrophe?" -Donald J. Trump)
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To: SeekAndFind
More Disinformation?
We Shall See
56 posted on 07/26/2015 6:15:15 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own <blockqurisk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Trump isn’t that stupid. I say the speech live. The author of this article is flat out lying.


57 posted on 07/26/2015 6:15:23 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Trump should avoid too many specifics on the amnesty question. The immigration laws already exist to handle those here illegally, they just haven’t been enforced for many years. A new president could handle this situation within existing law.


58 posted on 07/26/2015 6:15:29 PM PDT by Will88
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To: JohnBrowdie

Bingo!


59 posted on 07/26/2015 6:15:34 PM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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To: SeekAndFind
This post is HYPOCRISY at it's highest.

Not a single candidate has said they will deport ALL illegals.
If you do not deport ALL illegals, is it not amnesty?

But it is fine to single out Trump because he has not said if he will not deport ALL illegals?

Actually, Trump never said he will keep any illegals. But Hypocrites will be Hypocrites.

60 posted on 07/26/2015 6:15:44 PM PDT by entropy12 (Make America Great Again!!! Go Trump/Cruz 2016....)
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