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No Outrage From Environmentalists About Pot
townhall.com ^ | 7/22/2015 | Michael Reagan

Posted on 07/23/2015 7:12:55 AM PDT by rktman

In fact, it appears the growers don't appear to be very mellow at all.

According to an editorial in the Fresno Bee, "Acres of ancient trees are disappearing and illegal marijuana farms are popping up in their place. Streams and rivers are being sucked dry, diverted sometimes miles away through plastic pipes into tanks. Several species of fish, along with a rare breed of wild rodent, are on the verge of extinction."

Evidently this is because when you are an outlaw, it's cheaper to despoil parkland and steal water than it is to buy your own land and your own water.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: ag101; cannabis; dopers; gateway; marijuana; pot; wod
Whoa Dude! It's all natural man.
1 posted on 07/23/2015 7:12:55 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

The sins of unsustainability and spoliation, but nobody cares


2 posted on 07/23/2015 7:15:14 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Evidently this is because when you are an outlaw, it's cheaper to despoil parkland and steal water than it is to buy your own land and your own water.

Victor Davis Hanson touched on this two-levels of enforcement in "Two Californias":
"Many of the rural trailer-house compounds I saw appear to the naked eye no different from what I have seen in the Third World. There is a Caribbean look to the junked cars, electric wires crisscrossing between various outbuildings, plastic tarps substituting for replacement shingles, lean-tos cobbled together as auxiliary housing, pit bulls unleashed, and geese, goats, and chickens roaming around the yards. The public hears about all sorts of tough California regulations that stymie business — rigid zoning laws, strict building codes, constant inspections — but apparently none of that applies out here.
It is almost as if the more California regulates, the more it does not regulate. Its public employees prefer to go after misdemeanors in the upscale areas to justify our expensive oversight industry, while ignoring the felonies in the downtrodden areas, which are becoming feral and beyond the ability of any inspector to do anything but feel irrelevant."

3 posted on 07/23/2015 7:27:07 AM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate. [URL=http://media.photobucket.com/user/currencyjunkie/me)
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To: rktman

They know Pot makes people stupid and a stupid voter is the best Far Left Voter


4 posted on 07/23/2015 7:42:25 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: rktman

Decadents (aka Leftists) love to proclaim themselves “Liberals” though there is nothing liberal about them. They are iconoclast trapped in groupthink. Neither honesty, liberalism, love of truth, justice, nor self awareness is their strong suit.


5 posted on 07/23/2015 7:50:00 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("You can, in fact must, shout 'Fire!' in a crowded theater. It just has to be the truth." J.Goldberg)
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To: rktman

Substitute the word ‘tobacco’ for ‘pot’ and everyone in the nation - including all those soi disant ‘environmentalists’ - would be going ape sh*t.


6 posted on 07/23/2015 7:59:17 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Jack Hammer

LOL! Yup. Geez I wonder what’s up with that.($$$$$$) Once “they” manage to tax and regulate weed (that will be on the NV ‘16 ballot but in reality it okays ‘recreational’ use)and the prices go up will there be an increase in the home grown varieties more than now? Don’t think there are too many folks that grow their own tobacco for their own use. Then, 50 years from now will there be “studies” that prove that smoking pot is detrimental to your health? Oh well, pass the bong dude. :>} For me, life is enough for me and I don’t need to block stuff out. Hmmm. How many folks have been issued citations for smoking cigs while driving? Soon?


7 posted on 07/23/2015 8:09:13 AM PDT by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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To: Oatka

Rich people in suburbs have money to pay fines for minor things. The poor don’t have money for hundred dollars per infraction fines, the ability to sob story out of it and lack neighbors who care to make them pay it.


8 posted on 07/23/2015 8:16:56 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: rktman

The despoiling of our parks is a direct result of the criminalization of marijuana. If eating meat is banned, how many poachers will that create? Millions? Will they seize your home & jail you for the illicit chickens you are secretly raising in your backyard to feed your family? You betcha.

Marijuana is a weed. It is as easy to grow as a tomato on your deck or patio. Most users would grow their own or buy it retail if it was legal, putting the illicit growers out of business & out of our parks. Growers of quality pot prefer to grow indoors because of the threat of polllination resulting in seed. Seedy pot is poor quality, a ruined crop, nearly worthless these days.

But the DEA & local police want it to remain illegal - job security & lucrative property seizures, though it is far less harmful than alcohol.

Do you believe the government has the right to tell you what you may & may not consume? I don’t.


9 posted on 07/23/2015 9:24:04 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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“Do you believe the government has the right to tell you what you may & may not consume? I don’t.”

Well, ‘they’ sure as hell think ‘they’ are the ‘experts’ on what you may and may not consume. Survey says———NAAAHHHHH!


10 posted on 07/23/2015 9:32:30 AM PDT by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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To: Mister Da
Do you believe the government has the right to tell you what you may & may not consume? I don’t.

Nor do I, with one caveat. When you've smoked yourself into unemployable oblivion, I do not want my tax dollars supporting you because the progressives call your habit a disease, like they did with alcohol.

11 posted on 07/23/2015 9:34:30 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Mister Da

I agree with your post, except I posit that pot is actually easier to grow than tomatoes.

It is the prize-winning, enormous pot that requires a high level of effort and nutrients, and which resuts in a spoilation of the environment.


12 posted on 07/23/2015 10:00:27 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan ('Zionists crept into my home and stole my shoe' - Headline)
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To: JimRed

Is it possible to smoke yurself into oblivion with pot?

Alcohol is way worser than pot, hands down.


13 posted on 07/23/2015 10:01:50 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan ('Zionists crept into my home and stole my shoe' - Headline)
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To: rktman
NO WAY MAN!
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14 posted on 07/23/2015 10:17:53 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: JimRed

You’d be surprised of how many successful people smoke pot - doctors, lawyers, businessmen, entrepreneurs. The vast majority of pot smokers are adults with a steady job (until Obama came along & ruined the job market). They care about God & country just like you do. They have stable family relations. They like outdoor activities & sports just as others do.

Maybe you wouldn’t be surprised at how many people go to work drunk or so hungover they can’t go to work. Others just drink on the job.

Unlike alcohol, pot leaves no hangover, doesn’t cause double vision, staggering, slurring, or passing out, & doesn’t make people aggressive towards their family or others. Drivers under the influence of pot often find themselves driving well below the speed limit.

Your conception of what being stoned is like is way off the mark. If you smoked a joint, your attitude would immediately change from the government/alcohol lobby sponsored propaganda line.


15 posted on 07/23/2015 10:18:22 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: T-Bone Texan

The prize winning, enormous pot is grown exclusively indoors, to avoid seeding, in hydoponics.

Short story: my friend contracted to have his house built. Apparently, some of the workers had rolled themselves a joint while on the job & threw the seeds in the back yard. One female sprouted & grew. We looked at it & it was full of seeds. Where had all the pollen come from that journeyed over 10-15 acres to fertilize this female plant? Moral of story: don’t grow outside.

The nutrients are the same as all farmers use to grow a maximum crop & pose no more danger to the environment than a bag of 10-10-10 fertilizer. Obviously, no herbicides are needed indoors, & pesticides cannot be sprayed on a flowering crop without the possibility of tainting the crop.

Most small growers do so for their own consumption & share with friends/family. Unless they are idiots, they are loathe to use chemical poisons.

The damage to our parks is primarily caused by the clearing of land to grow the crops, which often causes erosion, & herbicides which kill the native plants.


16 posted on 07/23/2015 10:57:54 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: rktman
in California when the state legalized the sale and production of marijuana

Legalized only for medical use, leaving the recreational market in the hands of criminals ... who aren't concerned about environmental laws, imaging my surprise.

17 posted on 07/23/2015 11:06:15 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: Mister Da

AMA sets a daily allowance for alcohol.

What is the AMA’s daily allowance for marijuana?


18 posted on 07/23/2015 12:52:57 PM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: joshua c
What is the AMA’s daily allowance for marijuana?

No lower than their daily allowance for tobacco. What's your point?

19 posted on 07/23/2015 1:24:15 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: joshua c

Well, the death threshold of alcohol is about one quart or so, but there has never been a reported death from marijuana smoking, so I’d guess there is no daily allowance. Scientists estimate it would require smoking 40,000 joints in one siting to kill you, an impossible task.

The interesting thing about marijuana, it is somewhat self limiting. Countless times I have heard people say, “No more for me, I’ve had enough.” I’ve said it myself many times. You don’t hear that so much in a bar or at a party unless they are the designated driver.

Unlike alcohol which gets you drunker the more you drink, marijuana has a sort of plateau which you cannot overcome by smoking more of it. The quality of the pot seems to dictate how high you can get, not the amount you smoke. Regular smokers build a tolerance for the variety they are smoking. The only way to get that “first joint” buzz again is to change varieties or quit smoking for a few weeks.


20 posted on 07/23/2015 4:18:20 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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