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Gunfight or Flee: New Study Finds No Advantages to Using a Firearm in Self-Defense Situations
thetrace.org ^ | 7/14/2015 | Evan Defilippis and Devin Hughes

Posted on 07/15/2015 9:40:06 AM PDT by rktman

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To: rktman

HORSE HILLARY


41 posted on 07/15/2015 9:58:33 AM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: smoothsailing
They are just doing their job. They are ordered to produce anti-gun propaganda.

See, they have a problem, though. In the 1990's I remember EVERY MEDIA OUTLET was firmly anti-gun. The USA Today newspaper even wrote, in their state-by-state section, an anti-gun excerpt that was supposed to sour people on guns.

It didn't work. In fact, it even backfired.

I don't see anything changing.

42 posted on 07/15/2015 9:59:42 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Back in the 1970's, Iran used to call us the "Great Satan". Turns out they were right all along.)
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To: WayneS

Yeah. I hate it when that happens. It is tragic.


43 posted on 07/15/2015 10:02:52 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Years ago, my Brother was approached by a questionable character while unloading some stuff from his Car in a Parking Lot.

When the guy started to get aggressive, my Brother pulled out his Pistol.

At the sight of the Gun, the guy took off.


44 posted on 07/15/2015 10:04:19 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (I know I left my Tagline around here somewhere...)
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To: rktman; MeshugeMikey; cripplecreek; mrsmel; Darteaus94025; WinMod70
I think I will stick with my own review of studies. Obviously Clinton wouldn't have gotten these people involved if he didn't think he would get the answer he wanted. In spite of his best efforts it looks like they came a bit too close to the truth. Below is an excerpt from my essay on the subject.

The Clinton Administration commissioned a National Science Foundation (NSF) study that could not find a positive correlation between gun control laws and other measures after consulting 400 sources and doing its own research. The only dissent was detailed in Appendix A saying John Lott’s conclusion from his studies that concealed carry laws do drive down murder rates had in fact survived all attempts at reanalysis.

Here the dissenter referred to a twenty-year study by John Lott and William Landes from the University of Chicago Law School. That and subsequent Lott studies the NSF reviewed correlated passage of concealed carry laws with large decreases in multiple victim shootings, and reduced harm from shootings when they did occur.

National Science Foundation: Firearms and Violence, A Critical Review
http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?isbn=0309091241

Study by John Lott and William Landes from the University of Chicago Law School
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=272929

45 posted on 07/15/2015 10:04:21 AM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: WinMod70

The NCVS are lackeys of the Obama administration. Does anyone expect them to be objective?


46 posted on 07/15/2015 10:05:14 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Retain Mike

the clinton reference was based soley on the domain name

bjs.gov...


47 posted on 07/15/2015 10:06:28 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: rktman

I am constantly amazed by how much common sense and logic that our educational system remove from it’s students. Most of these idiots had more sense the day they were born then they have now.

If the perp is lying on the ground writhing in pain he can no longer harm me. The range works wonders for ones accuracy.


48 posted on 07/15/2015 10:06:42 AM PDT by JayAr36 (What happened to America? Move over Roman Empire we are coming.)
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To: rktman

What a crock of BS


49 posted on 07/15/2015 10:06:50 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Ted Cruz for President ... all others are cheap imitations)
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To: Kickass Conservative
When the guy started to get aggressive, my Brother pulled out his Pistol.

Definitely a situation I would never report.

Many places that is considered brandishing and could very easily get you into trouble.

Glad it worked out for your Brother!

50 posted on 07/15/2015 10:08:48 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: rktman

Re: “Contrary to what many gun advocates argue, the National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) data reveals that having a gun provides no statistically significant benefit to a would-be victim during a criminal confrontation.”

Contrary to what many people believe, the sky really isn’t blue and water really isn’t wet.


51 posted on 07/15/2015 10:09:50 AM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: WinMod70
The margin of error is hugh and series. Many “crimes” are never reported because they were stopped by the presence of a gun in the hands of the intended victim or a good Samaritan.
52 posted on 07/15/2015 10:12:03 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: ichabod1

“Disarm the NYPD?”

I thought that’s what DeBlabbio was doing?


53 posted on 07/15/2015 10:13:52 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: rktman

I have found pelting criminals with marshmallows will make them giggle uncontrollably, thereby rendering them harmless.

So, remember Kiddies: always bring a marshmallow to a gun fight!


54 posted on 07/15/2015 10:15:17 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: rktman
DOH! Well that pretty much wraps it up for me.

This just in! New Study Finds No Advantages to Using a Study in Self-Defense Situations, either....

55 posted on 07/15/2015 10:15:55 AM PDT by archy
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To: rktman

You can rename a turd “rose” and it will still smell the same & stick to your shoes.

IOW, you can call lies truth all you want, changes nothing. Except maybe in Obama’s Amerika.


56 posted on 07/15/2015 10:15:57 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there....)
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To: Lazamataz

Every time Bloomberg or some other gun grabber starts their crap I just have to laugh.

They are too dense to realize that their efforts only serve to increase public awareness and as a result more folks realize the importance of arming themselves.

Ultimately this increases the conservative base. I love positive outcomes.


57 posted on 07/15/2015 10:18:24 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: rktman
Contrary to what many gun advocates argue, the National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) data reveals that having a gun provides no statistically significant benefit to a would-be victim during a criminal confrontation.

WOULD-BE: Desiring, intending, professing, or having the potential to be.

Is the writer not a native-speaker of English?

Regards,

58 posted on 07/15/2015 10:23:41 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: rktman

“Most self-reported self-defense gun uses may well be illegal and against the interests of society.”

The Fascists would like you to believe that...

How is self-defense use “illegal”?

It just means the law is screwed up.

WHO is measuring “the interests of society”?


59 posted on 07/15/2015 10:24:55 AM PDT by G Larry (Obama Hates America, Israel, Capitalism, Freedom, and Christianity.)
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To: rktman

I know one person who wishes this story was true. The thug who broke into my home, whom I chased out with my gun!


60 posted on 07/15/2015 10:28:35 AM PDT by YourAdHere (I just took a big Obama.)
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