Black Activists in Detroit Blame Democrats for Violence

Red Statements ^ | June 24, 2015 | Steve Ahle

[Perseverando]

Black activists got angry when the Detroit Police Chief James Craig called the people responsible for shooting 12 people on a playground killing one of them urban terrorists. They complained about the insult and want him to apologize. Craig refused to back down and stuck to his guns.

Craig said quite bluntly:

“You will allow this to continue if you do nothing. It must stop now.”

That’s when the president of the Detroit National Action Network (founded by Al Sharpton) Rev. Charles Williams took umbrage to Craig’s assertions that these thugs are urban terrorists:

“We want to make it very much known that the young people who are causing the violence in our community are not terrorists,” the activists said. “They are not urban terrorists, they are the products of bad urban policy.”

It’s good to see them put the blame squarely on the shoulders of the ones truly responsible for running the city into the ground, the democrats who have ruled Detroit for the past 50 plus years. I guess they couldn’t see a way to blame it on George W Bush or ATM machines. Detroit and Chicago (another democratic bastion of hell) have been competing for the most violent city in America and currently, it’s too close to call. Chicago just reelected their democratic misfits and don’t believe for a moment Detroit will too because that’s what being a democratic voter is all about.

Craig reacted to Rev Williams by doubling down on his message:

“What should we call them? I say it’s urban terrorism and if it offends someone, I’m not worried about it. It is what it is.”

”And I say to the critics, when we were out there Sunday, I didn’t see any of them out of the grounds working with us side by side to come up with solutions … I’m sick and tired of dealing with the level of violence in some of our neighborhoods.”

Juvenile violence is so bad that Detroit has issued a curfew for minors from 6 PM to 6AM unless accompanied by a parent.

[AppyPappy]

“ATM machines.”

Is that where you enter your PIN....number?

[cripplecreek]

Black activists got angry when the Detroit Police Chief James Craig called the people responsible for shooting 12 people on a playground killing one of them urban terrorists. They complained about the insult and want him to apologize. Craig refused to back down and stuck to his guns.



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[DoughtyOne]

It’s kind of a chicken and the egg thing here.

Did bad policy create bad families, or did bad families cause bad politicians and bad policy?

[motor_racer]

Craig’s main point (as seen on local news in Detroit) referred to the fact that witnesses and others in neighborhoods where these things occur are increasingly unwilling to cooperate with police to solve crimes, in fear of retaliation.

The “terrorists” referred to were those working to suppress cooperation by, quite literally terrorizing neighbors through threats and intimidation.

[cripplecreek]

James Craig would be a fine mayor of Detroit.

Dave Bing was a good enough guy but was too old to fight the city council. Mike Duggan is a mixed bag. He’s a pro business guy but he’s white and constantly trying to avoid being called a racist.

Craig has fire in the belly. He even managed to shame Mike Duggan into visiting with the Utash family and the armed nurse who saved Steve Utash.

[Old Sarge]

Since they are criticizing Leftists, they can’t be Authentic Black People.

[Kartographer]

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[Mollypitcher1]

The loss of American Automobiles equals American Jobs has a large part in the problem. When Americans started “buying foreign” they started stripping American workers of jobs. The loss of jobs led to poverty and poverty led to this terrorism. Another problem is the loss of the “draft.” Many an otherwise useless individual found his way to a better life through service in the Military. Now that said service is “voluntary” there is little chance for the dregs of society to find a “new life.” Bring back the draft because it is better to pay people to be soldiers than to pay unemployment and a zillion “human services” payouts to lazy, unmotivated, people....young or old.

[cripplecreek]

Craig’s main point (as seen on local news in Detroit) referred to the fact that witnesses and others in neighborhoods where these things occur are increasingly unwilling to cooperate with police to solve crimes, in fear of retaliation.

And he's correct. When there was a recent shooting at a block party there were nearly 200 people present and nobody saw nuthin.

[BwanaNdege]

When people started “buying foreign”, they did so because the UAW worker and the Detroit management were building shoddy products. The American buyers were not “stripping American workers of jobs”. The UAW workers and UAW leadership were throwing away their own jobs.

Secondly, the purpose of the military is to defend the United States, not to be a jobs program for “the dregs of society to find a new life.” Restart the Civilian Conservation Corps and put those “dregs of society” to work pulling kudzu in the South before they can draw their welfare check. Perhaps pulling Kudzu could replace the malicious desire to pull down the Stars & Bars?

If they can do a good job pulling kudzu, then let them apply for the military.

Another idea is to have the UAW start an apprenticeship program in the inner cities of their plant locations. Demand that the leadership of those cities eliminate the gangs which terrorize the city or the plant will move to safer environs.

[FreedomPoster]

Correct; and there’s one right outside the Department of Redundancy Department.

Back on topic, I love this sheriff. This guy and the one in Milwaukee just lay down the truth in a way that has been needed for decades.

[DoughtyOne]

I'm not going to agree with you much here.  I apologize to you in advance.  I like your thoughts, but I do think you're a little off the mark.  That doesn't mean I disagree with your intent, or the fact that you recognize problems and want to attribute reason to them.  You're coming from a Conservative point of view, and I apprecaite that.  Sorry, in advance...

The loss of American Automobiles equals American Jobs has a large part in the problem.

You  know MollyPitcher1, ultimately you're right, but I don't like using the auto industry as an example.  I'll tell you why.  The labor unions so screwed up the balance between labor and management, that the auto industry was forced into obsolescence.  By contrast what we have going on today is tens of millions of jobs that never had labor union representation, also moved off-shore.  IMO< those are the much more critical and destructive jobs to have lost.  How many jobs were involved with the auto industry and supportive businesses overall?  10,000, 50,000?  We're talking about perhaps 40 million jobs lost to off-shore concerns at this time.  

When Americans started “buying foreign” they started stripping American workers of jobs.

I'd like to join you here, but there are externuating circumstance here as well.  Try implementing a "no China" policy into your household.  It's amost impossible to do.  They were so effective in moving manufacturing off-shore, that you can't even find some items made in the U. S.  Over and above the U. S. loyalty factor, was the quality of merchandise factor.  When I bought my first electronics from China, I found that their circutry wasn't up to par.  Devices that had tradionally lasted at least a decade before corossion became a terminal problem, were suddenly dying about 24 to 36 months out.  Other items broke easily.  Their products were trash.

Tradtionally, there has been the initial cost of items.  There was inflation.  Now there's also the life of the product factor.  These were calculated into your purchase with your after tax dollars.  If you look at the "life of the product" factor that China manufacturing presented to us, you realize that your purchasing power dropped significantly, because you had to replace the products every few years.  There was no place to get these items repaired.  When one stopped working, you had to buy a new one.

All of a sudden, our stagnant wages wouldn't buy as much, even though the new merchandise was cheaper.  It didn't last.  So what do you do about that?  Nothing!  It's China or nothing these days for many products.

My point here, what choice did U. S. Citizens have, for making a lot of purchases.  They were forced into buying China.  

The loss of jobs led to poverty and poverty led to this terrorism.

While I do believe that the loss of jobs led to tough economic times for those who lost them, are we really seeing people conduct these types of crimes who used to hold down good jobs?  I don't think you believe that.  What we are seeing is the same old dead-beats.  Unfortunately these same dead-beats have been empowered by the first half-White president.  They think they are entitled to be violent.  They think they are entitled to meet out punishment to Whites for something that happened long ago.  This isn't about jobs at all.  It's about racial manipulation and hatred.

How many of these guys would run out to get a job if all of a sudden a lot of jobs became available in these areas?  I'll bet hardly any of them would.    

Another problem is the loss of the “draft.” Many an otherwise useless individual found his way to a better life through service in the Military. Now that said service is “voluntary” there is little chance for the dregs of society to find a “new life.” Bring back the draft because it is better to pay people to be soldiers than to pay unemployment and a zillion “human services” payouts to lazy, unmotivated, people....young or old.

In our youth, the military was hard as nails for recruits, new inductees.  I'm not sure it's the same any longer.  In the old days there was a fair amount of abuse leveled at the recruit.  It was part of the conditioning process to eventually get these people to form a cohesive unit ready for battle.  I don't have any way of knowing, but I fear the new recruits are molly-coddled too much these days.  If someone knows otherwise, I'd like to hear what they have to say.  I do hope I'm wrong.  I think you need to have a guy in there that yells and kicks butt.

I do think the military is a good way to take a guy in and turn him around.  I do think the military has too high a priority to be swamped with these types though.  In the old days you'd get the rogue idiot, and the service could give him the special attention they needed.  Today, the military would be swamped if every bad kid on the streets went in.

I don't know what the full answer to this is.  A youth conservation corp projects type of program might be what the doctor ordered, but then you'd get gang members coming out and threating the program too.

Until we get absolutely serious about gangs and the crimes they commit, this isn't getting better.

We need RICO tactics, and a task force to simply take out anyone involved at any level in gangs.  Participation in a gang should be ten years minimum.  Every member of a gang should be considered to be an accesorty to any crimes committed by the gang.  They are part of the support group.  They love the power that gives them.  Destroy it, and them if need be. 

[Mollypitcher1]

I disagree that American cars were “shoddy.” I have driven General Motors products all my life and am driving one even now. I have NEVER had a car that did not give me excellent service. I have NEVER had a car in the shop except for an oil change or new tires, and I drive a lot of miles. NOTHING has ever gone wrong with any of my G.M. cars.
I agree that the unions needed and need to be slapped down, but the “shoddy” label was largely, if not entirely, a CON JOB by FREE TRADE Internationalists. They succeeded! People believed the Media Propaganda and bought foreign and are still doing so while American patents are shipped overseas along with American jobs.

Secondly, I never said nor intimated that our Military was a jobs program. I pointed out that thousands of people have found purpose in their life through Military Service. They have found discipline and training and you cannot deny that. If you consider a good citizen developed through Military training is not “defending the United States” then
you and I are on different wave lengths. In fact, some of our greatest soldiers have been “problems” in their youth.

I totally agree with your statement about jobs and leadership programs in the inner cities. Gangs must be wiped out and that goes double for ‘foreign” gangs. Assimilate or get out!

[VRWCarea51]

Stop already...

Back in the 70s-early 80s cars that were built in America were eaten by road salt in 3-5 years. Main Bearings in Vehicles were lucky to last past 50-60,000 miles as the prices continued to out pace the wages of Middle America people started looking for options.. That is what drove people to look elsewhere along with increasing fuel costs...

Recently GM just had to admit they had a faulty ignition switch problem they knew about for 10 years in some cases causing death. I have a buddy that had to have the Cam replaced in his Chevy Truck because of weak steel causing the lobes to wear.

Fact is GM,Ford and Chrysler all waited almost too long to get with the Quality Control Program and inprove their Products. It caused Chrysler and GM to need bailouts to keep them from shuttering.

That wasn’t any overseas conspiracy. That was Corporate Decisions for short term gain versus long term planning.

[MeshugeMikey]

Revrunt AL..and Revrunt WIllyumz share MUCH....in common

yes I YAM as fat and stupid as Revrunt AL

[Mollypitcher1]

Part of what you say may be true, however, my personal experience denies your assertions.
I do not live in the north or other region that has to contend with “road salt” but DO live in the state of Florida and on the beach where Sea Salt is a big problem for some people. I never had a problem with rust and still don’t though my Buick is a 2003 Century. I drove Oldsmobiles until they stopped making them. Now I drive Buicks. NEVER had a car repainted. My son, during the period you mention, drove a Chevy 4 W.D. pickup well over 360,000 miles. He had another with well over 300,000 miles and has just bought another Chevy 4WD last week. As a well driller, pulling drilling rigs is tough on a truck, and the terrain is anything but easy, but never caused him a problem with a Chevy. During that period he had friends and competitors driving Toyotas and other foreign marks changing their trucks constantly. He just laughed at them.

[billyboy15]

Anecdotal evidence counts for little in the larger picture. I have (had) about 25 yrs experience in retail auto business. Japanese cars from about mid 70’s on won the automobile trifecta. They were less expensive to buy, less expensive to operate and worth more on resale.

There is plenty of hard evidence to back this up.

[Mollypitcher1]

My grandfather and my uncle were auto dealers. You have your opinion and I have mine. Besides, I remember Pearl Harbor. I would never drive a Jap car.

[monocle]

Industry-wide bargaining was the major cause of loss of jobs in the automobile sector.