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To: tophat9000

Dear Tophat,

I really wonder at your estimation:
“I thought Judge Andrew Napolitano was on the Libertarian party pro gay marriage bandwagon like Glen Beck?”

First being a Libertarian, is not being a liberal, which fits your wording, i.e., “pro gay marriage bandwagon”. I think you need to go find a few YouTube recordings of Neal Boortz to learn what Libertarianism is about.

Second, Here is the article I referenced from Judge Napolitano, since you did not do your homework, before replying to me.

What Is a Right?
Judge Napolitano on the difference between ‘rights’ and
‘goods’
December 18, 2009
By Judge Napolitano
FOXNews
Hello America. In the continually harsh public discourse over the President’s proposals for federally managed health care, the big government progressives and both the Democratic and Republican parties have been trying to trick us.

These folks who really want the government to care for us from cradle to grave have been promoting the idea that health care is a right. In promoting that false premise, they have succeeded in moving the debate from whether the Fed should micro-manage health care to how the feds should micro-manage healthcare.

This is a false premise and we should reject it. Health care is not a ‘right’ it is a ‘good’ like food, like shelter and like clothing. Okay what’s a ‘right’.
A ‘right’ as a gift from God that extends from our humanity. Thinkers from Saint Thomas Aquinas to Thomas Jefferson to the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
to Pope John Paul the second have all argued that our rights are a natural part of our humanity.

We own our bodies, thus we own the gifts that emanate from our bodies. So own our ‘right’ to life, our ‘right’ to develop our personalities.

A ‘right’ to think as we wish, to say what we think, to publish what we say.
A ‘right’ to worship or not worship.
A ‘right’ to travel, to defend ourselves, to use our own property as we see fit.
A ‘right’ to due process, which is fairness from the government.
And a ‘right’ to be left alone are all rights that stem from our humanities.

These are natural rights that we were born with.

The government doesn’t give them to us and the government doesn’t pay for them and the government can’t take them away unless a jury finds that we have violated someone else’s rights.

What is a ‘good’?
A ‘good’ is something we want or need. In a sense, it is the opposite of a ‘right’. We have our rights from birth. But we need our parents when we are children and we need ourselves as adults to purchase the goods we require for
existence.

So food is a ‘good’.
Shelter is a ‘good’.
Clothing is a ‘good’.
Education is a ‘good’.
A car is a ‘good’.
Legal representation is a ‘good’.
Working out at the gym as a ‘good’.
And access to health care is a ‘good’.
Does the government give us ‘goods’? Well, sometimes it takes money from us and gives that money to others. You can call that taxation or you can call it theft.
But you cannot caught it a ‘right’.
A ‘right’ stems from our humanity. A ‘good’ is something you buy or someone else buys for you.

Now when you look at health care for what it is, when you look at the US constitution, when you look at the history of human freedom, when you accept the American value of the primacy of the individual over the fleeting wishes of the government, it becomes apparent that those who claim that health care is a ‘right’ simply want to extend a form of government welfare.

Now when I make this argument to my big government friends they come back at me with “well, if people don’t have health insurance they would just go to hospitals that will end up paying for them anyway.” Well, why should that be?

We don’t let people steal food from a supermarket or an apartment from a landlord or clothing from a local shop. Why don’t we let them take health care from a hospital without paying for it? Well, my big government friends contend that’s charity.

Well, they’re wrong again. It’s impossible to be charitable with someone else’s money. Charity comes from your own heart, not from the government spending your money.
When we pay our taxes to the government and it gives that money away, that’s not charity. That’s welfare.

When the government takes more from us than it needs to secure our freedoms so it can give some of that money away, that’s notcharity. That’s theft.

And when the government forces hospitals to provide free health care to those who can’t or won’t care for themselves, that’s not charity.

That’s slavery.

That’s why we now have constitutional chaos, America. Because the government steals and enslaves. And we outlawed that a long time.”


16 posted on 07/12/2015 1:55:11 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Terry L Smith

Libertarian comes in multiple flavors, and the official party named that tends to lean to libertinism even to the point of backing the idea of things like “gay marriage” that a moment’s thought to realpolitik would reveal is a platform of endless trouble (and it’s also an imposition on people who don’t want to see a time honored word violently redefined).

There is no salvation in any “ism.” There is only salvation (and I have learned this the hard way) in the Son of God.


17 posted on 07/12/2015 1:59:32 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Terry L Smith
Let keep it simple, ...I didn't say libertarian and liberal are the same thing

But the Libertarian Party officially is pro gay marriage and every big L Libertarian I've heard has been pro gay marriage

The Judge the last time on saw him interview back with Beck on Fox stated he was a libertarian was pro gay marriage or at the very least pro civil union and Beck if i recall credited the judge and John Stossel as being some of his influences in Beck going more party Libertarian and pro gay marriage ...

at least that's my recollection some years.

22 posted on 07/12/2015 3:04:15 PM PDT by tophat9000 (SCOTUS=Newspeak)
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To: Terry L Smith
Let keep it simple, ...I didn't say libertarian and liberal are the same thing

But the Libertarian Party officially is pro gay marriage and every big L Libertarian I've heard has been pro gay marriage

The Judge the last time on saw him interview back with Beck on Fox stated he was a libertarian was pro gay marriage or at the very least pro civil union and Beck if i recall credited the judge and John Stossel as being some of his influences in Beck going more party Libertarian and pro gay marriage ...

at least that's my recollection some years back... I've tuned out Big L party Lbertarians for some time now... originaly libertarians understood they were ruled by natural law.... modern libertarians have been evolving to think there should be no law whatsoever over them.. they are really just anarchists ...Bill Maher claims he's a Libertarian

23 posted on 07/12/2015 3:11:27 PM PDT by tophat9000 (SCOTUS=Newspeak)
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