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Texas Bikers Arrested After Waco Shootout Say They Are Innocent
npr ^ | July 7, 2015 | Kelly McEvers

Posted on 07/07/2015 2:15:45 PM PDT by don-o

In May, a fight between two rival motorcycle clubs turned into a bloodbath in Waco, Texas. Nine people were shot dead, and at least 20 were injured.

In the end, 177 people were arrested and jailed on charges of engaging in organized crime.

But many of them say they had nothing to do with these so-called outlaw motorcycle clubs — and nothing to do with the violence.

Among them are Walt and Ester Weaver. Walt says he's stunned by the way authorities handled the situation.

"Two months ago if you'd told me this could happen to this many people in the manner in which it was done, I would've looked you in the eye and called you a liar," he says.

Walt is a veteran who still works for the Army. The 54-year-old rides a Harley and says he used to be in motorcycle clubs but isn't in one now.

Ester, 46, is a housewife. She rides a big Honda and wears a black leather vest with patches for the Queens of Sheba Motorcycle Club — a club that rides on weekends and raises money for charities.

(Excerpt) Read more at npr.org ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: npr; waco; wacobikers
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1 posted on 07/07/2015 2:15:45 PM PDT by don-o
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To: don-o

NPR is going to want to blame it on Vast Conservative Evil Bikers. That’s their story, and they’d hate to give it up.


2 posted on 07/07/2015 2:22:54 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: don-o

Those bitches in Queen o Sheba got everything they had coming!/s

(As if I needed to add /s).


3 posted on 07/07/2015 2:32:10 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: don-o

Posting from NPR? Liberal Bikers? Probably are some. NPR knows a lot about guns too.


4 posted on 07/07/2015 2:33:31 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: don-o

Still no coroner’s report? By now they should have plenty of evidence the 9 dead committed suicide by their own hand.


5 posted on 07/07/2015 2:33:41 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Most predictable comment. Ever.


6 posted on 07/07/2015 2:36:12 PM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: wastoute; All
Those bitches in Queen o Sheba got everything they had coming!/s

For those new to the Waco threads, there will some, I expect them soon, who believe exactly that WITHOUT the /s.

7 posted on 07/07/2015 2:38:37 PM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: don-o

The Waco Gestapo would say that only those who deserve it are sent to the gas chambers. Good people with unchecked powers, turn bad without fail. Living in Germany for 11 years brought me to an understanding of this phenomenon. Seeing it in action in the Balkans reinforced my conclusions.

Nuremberg, Sarajevo, and Waco. Connect the dots. There were probably eight or fewer murderers at Twin Peaks that day. Some of them may have been wearing badges.


8 posted on 07/07/2015 2:40:35 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: don-o

Even Nixon couldn’t successfully manage modified limited hangout this long. Frankly, while not surprised, I am impressed. Yet another measure of just how far down the rabbit hole we are, I suppose.


9 posted on 07/07/2015 2:42:23 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: don-o

I’m still waiting to hear how many were shot with .223 rounds. Funny they still haven’t released that bit of info about the police ambush.


10 posted on 07/07/2015 2:43:43 PM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!",)
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To: Hugin

I’m interested in when they will return the smart phones that they collected on 5/17.

Also in the asset forfeitures that are going on.

And the violations of Amendments 4, 8, and 14 as well as attempting the violate the 5th (sweating them out under an excessive $1,000,000 bond.)


11 posted on 07/07/2015 2:51:40 PM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: don-o

Still no video, coroners, or ballistic reports released to the public. Disgusting.

Major cover up going on here.


12 posted on 07/07/2015 2:56:22 PM PDT by Boomer (America; love it or leave it. It isn't just a bumper sticker.)
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To: Boomer

From what I gathered, this was a meeting of various motorcycle clubs, one of which was a competitor to a government backed group of drug runners.

The ‘bad’ guys decided to show up and eliminate the competition. The FEDS were there to back up the bad guys.

Am I wrong ?


13 posted on 07/07/2015 3:14:06 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Hugin

“Funny they still haven’t released that bit of info about the police ambush.”

Don’t think such police ambush will be in any news sources. How about YOU filling us in on the FACTS proving such police ambush.

Maybe was one of those ESP telepathic overwhelming suggestion ambushes from the ambushing police that made the gangers begin poppin caps on one another, first.


14 posted on 07/07/2015 3:17:47 PM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: UCANSEE2

LOL!!


15 posted on 07/07/2015 3:21:11 PM PDT by MEG33 (God Bless America And Our Troops)
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To: X-spurt

The authorities haven’t released the videos or autopsy reports, so facts are in short supply. But what is known is the parking lot was surrounded by police snipers. Allegedly a few of a whole crowd of bikers began shooting at each other. None are alleged to have used rifles. The police then opened fire on the crowd and arrested the rest of attempted murder. Now they are withholding the evidence of what happened.

Even if a few bikers started shooting each other, that wouldn’t be justification for shooting into the crowd, or reason to arrest bystanders. The most logical answer is the police set the site up to kill a bunch of bikers and arrest the rest. But you keep licking those jackboots. After all, police and DAs never lie, do they?


16 posted on 07/07/2015 3:28:18 PM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!",)
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To: don-o

NPR? What next HufnPuf Post or Politico? Mighty ‘conservative’ sources you quote.


17 posted on 07/07/2015 3:29:04 PM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Due tell...I recently caught him posting directly from the ACLU.

Biker truth knows no bounds...


18 posted on 07/07/2015 3:40:39 PM PDT by mac_truck (Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Hugin

We can agree that both police and DAs lie quite a lot.
Their truthfulness is not the source of the ‘ambush’ story, now are they?

What about the news reports quoting several of the attendees that were happy the police were there and prepared and that the police indeed likely prevented many more being killed. They feared that the shootout would not stop until most were shot or dead without outside stoppage. Can you agree to that contention from the bikers themselves?

How are they withholding evidence? The DA has no legal obligation to feed the prurient interests of MSM or bike gang supporters and is obligated to make sure justice is not thwarted by a biased jury pool.


19 posted on 07/07/2015 3:44:34 PM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: X-spurt

There is no legal obligation to withhold videos or autopsy reports. DAs release those all the time when it helps their case. The fact that they won’t do so here speaks for itself.

At the very least there should be an independent investigation of the entire incident including police and DA conduct.


20 posted on 07/07/2015 3:52:27 PM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!",)
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