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Bankruptcy is the only way Greece can fashion a new beginning
The Washington Times ^ | July 5, 2015 | Stephen Moore

Posted on 07/06/2015 11:52:23 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Almost every option facing debt-drenched Greece is bad, but there is only one that will end this Greek tragedy for good. Let Greece go bankrupt. Then let this once-rich nation, hit the restart button to rebuild its economy.

What I’m suggesting for Greece is what might be called the Detroit option. Put Greece under receivership and let these new authorities figure out how to manage the debt and decide who will take a haircut and how big. Pensioners, bondholders, welfare recipients, government workers, the International Monetary Fund, all will have to settle for less — maybe a lot less. It’s tough love, but it’s the only way out. More bailouts and debt extensions will only delay the crash of the socialist Greek economy.

I can already hear the heart palpitations of the Wall Street investors. This option puts them in the fetal position with the thumb in the mouth. They worry about the entire world economy collapsing as creditors flee the sovereign debt of one fiscally bloated nation after another — Spain, Argentina, Venezuela, Puerto Rico, Portugal. All of them have the same defects: obese welfare states, leaky pension systems and tumbling tax collections.

But every option is worse. For six years the brainiacs at the International Monetary Fund and the European Union have devised one bailout and debt restructuring scheme after another. None of them have worked. They have only saddled the Greek citizens with even more long-term debt that can’t be paid back. Greece is now sitting on $350 billion of debt. It is unpayable and the international monetary experts are deluding themselves into believing that by some magic stroke, this nation of less than 11 million citizens will some time in the future come up with the funds to repay it.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Germany; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Michigan; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: alexistsipras; bankruptcy; benefits; creditors; debt; debtcrisis; default; detroit; drachma; euro; europeanunion; france; germany; greece; grexit; imf; nato; receivership; restructuring; socialism; syriza; taxes; unitedkingdom; welfarestate
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1 posted on 07/06/2015 11:52:23 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

It will only be a new beginning if they don’t go right back to what they did to get themselves into this mess — overspend. If they do, they will re-live the nightmare over and over again.


2 posted on 07/06/2015 11:54:52 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
This is what Greece is scheduled to pay in the future. Look at the numbers! They couldn't even make the recent 1.25B payment


3 posted on 07/06/2015 11:56:00 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

With $20 trillion in national debt, close to $200 trillion when unfunded liabilities in entitlement programs are taken into account, can the U.S. be that far behind from Greece?


4 posted on 07/06/2015 11:59:13 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

How does bankruptcy change a lazy society, VERY trained on living off
other people’s money?


5 posted on 07/06/2015 11:59:41 AM PDT by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Pensioners, bondholders, welfare recipients, government workers, the International Monetary Fund, all will have to settle for less — maybe a lot less.

Hah! The Greeks just said "NO!" to that. Democracy and the voice of the majority rule!

Next month they will have another referendum declaring the end of mathematics and declare a one-year national holiday, during which everyone will eat well and get a hefty allowance of spending money from the state.

6 posted on 07/06/2015 12:00:17 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Bankruptcy isn’t the ONLY way.

Revolution is also an option.


7 posted on 07/06/2015 12:01:36 PM PDT by WayneS (Yeah, it's probably sarcasm...)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

So much for borrowing your way to prosperity, don’t tell Boehner, he won’t believe you.


8 posted on 07/06/2015 12:01:39 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: SampleMan

Next month they will have another referendum declaring the end of mathematics and declare a one-year national holiday, during which everyone will eat well and get a hefty allowance of spending money from the state.

How in the hell did you get an advance copy of Speaker Boehner’s budget proposal???


9 posted on 07/06/2015 12:02:54 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Greece will be forced to liquidate some assets . . . in particular, some beautiful islands.


10 posted on 07/06/2015 12:10:04 PM PDT by Jacquerie ( Law no longer protects us. Article V before we can't.)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi
I wonder what our chart looks like...?
11 posted on 07/06/2015 12:13:16 PM PDT by Gritty (The wicked strut freely about when what is vile is honored among men - Psalm 12:8)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Just wait until the USA repudiates all that debt to Red China.....


12 posted on 07/06/2015 12:17:54 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: tennmountainman

I am fascinated by the assumptions of “lazy” etc. of some of the posters here.

Thatcher predicted the unworkability of the euro from day one.

Merkel is under the false assumption that lending money is a guarantee of repayment. Money is lent and interest is changed to cover the risk of non repayment.

In the USA we have bankruptcy embedded in our constitution.

Brussels is working on the assumption that “ executions will continue until moral improves.”

Goldman Sachs inflated the bonds. Brussels demanded the standard wages be made equal with other EU nations. THEN they are shocked when the Greeks have a “stamp tax” or “boston tea party” moment.


13 posted on 07/06/2015 12:21:00 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: WayneS

Would not be the first time the European aristocrats pushed taxes too far. (tea anyone?)


14 posted on 07/06/2015 12:23:23 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: WayneS

How does a revolution, in and of itself, fix anything?

Revolutions destroy, they don’t create. Creation, if it ever occurs, take place after the revolution.


15 posted on 07/06/2015 12:28:35 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: eyeamok

The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money.


16 posted on 07/06/2015 12:28:39 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Seriously, where do people get these strange ideas. How does a country declare bankruptcy? They don't. They default on loans. There's no receivership for a nation. Should Greece default? No, they should get their financial affairs in order. Start by actually collecting taxes they assess against citizens. Then start cutting budget items.

You know, nations can do that. There is absolutely nothing obligating any legislative body to follow along with promises made by (and never paid for) previous legislative bodies. There's no constitution anywhere in the world that does that. If it were true, congress could meet once, divvy up all the tax receipts by percentage, and never have to come back again on a budget matter.

Then again, the same is true for any legislative body, even down to the local city. If a city council wishes to promise and pay for certain benefits for employees, that's great. But lacking actual payment for those promises does not obligate any future city council to consider the budget matter, much less actually pay for it.

17 posted on 07/06/2015 12:34:03 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: longtermmemmory

Tiny difference.

American patriots were not borrowing money from the Brits to have the Boston
Tea Party.

No one forced Greece to borrow money to prop up their lazy, socialist
Society.


18 posted on 07/06/2015 12:40:58 PM PDT by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance.)
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To: tennmountainman

This entire fiasco has NEVER been about money. It has been about central control under Germany.

The EU has sought to make a united states of Europe out of nations which have hundreds of years of history with individual identities.

In the American colonies you had a group of people seeking rights under a single british crown.

with a load that demands 180% of GDP to repay it, you essentially have created a slave nation.


19 posted on 07/06/2015 12:48:47 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Gritty
I wonder what our chart looks like...?

I have never seen it published. However, we've got something like $18T in "official" debt and an additional $100T in "unfunded mandates", that is, unfunded pension accounts for public service employees, primarily.

Fact is, the USA takes in about $2.5T in taxes and spends $3.5T, for an annual deficit of $1T. Year after stinking year.

20 posted on 07/06/2015 12:50:11 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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