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Ted Cruz Sets Record Straight With Karl Rove
Ted Cruz 2016 ^ | 6/28/15 | Ted Cruz

Posted on 07/06/2015 11:07:30 AM PDT by jimbo123

Rove Today: “When Mr. Cruz and I talked in 2009, I was not raising money for the Bush Library, nor was former President Bush 43 going to endorse some unnamed Dallas state representative for state attorney general, nor were any library donors “berating” me.”

Rove in 2009: “[T]he distress you mention is not mine or 43 — it is the people raising money for the library who are also Branch fans and will not understand why one part of the Bush family is for not-the-guy while they are raising money big bucks for library.”

HOUSTON, Texas – The presidential campaign of U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, today released the following statement from Sen. Cruz and earlier emails between Cruz and Karl Rove setting the record straight regarding Rove’s blatantly false recap of their 2009 conversations (as posted here on medium.com).

Sen. Cruz:

“I have known Karl Rove for a long time, and have considered him a friend. I understood that my recounting in my book A Time for Truth the threats he made in the 2009 Texas Attorney General race—and the disparaging remarks he made about President George H.W. Bush—would cause him some discomfort.

“But I never imagined that his response would be a straight-out falsehood. It’s disappointing; this is why people are so cynical about politics, because too many people are willing to lie.

“No part of our 2009 conversation concerned my good friend Greg Abbott.

“Below is email correspondence, contemporaneous from that week, demonstrating the veracity of my account. Karl admits, in writing, that his concern was for “the people raising money for the library who are also [then Texas Rep. Dan] Branch fans and will not understand why one part of the Bush family is for not-the-guy while they are raising money big bucks for library.”

2009 Email Correspondence:

From: Karl Rove To: Ted Cruz Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 8:24 AM Subject: Re: Follow-up from today

thanks — I appreciate your doing what you can to keep this down — the distress you mention is not mine or 43 — it is the people raising money for the library who are also Branch fans and will not understand why one part of the Bush family is for not-the-guy while they are raising money big bucks for library.

Thanks too for clarifying that you asked to visit with 41; be as nonchulant as possible about the gift and we’ll muddle through

On Jul 1, 2009, at 12:49 AM, Ted Cruz wrote:

Karl,

I am very sorry if I have done anything to distress you or President Bush 43 in any way.

Over the past several years, you’ve been extraordinarily generous in providing advice and insight re the AG campaign, and I have endeavored to follow your wise counsel to the letter. When we last spoke in January, you advised that the best way to convince Branch not to run was to bring aboard as many “old bulls” across the state as possible, so that the rest of the state would counteract his natural base in Highland Park. Since then, I’ve spent 18 hours a day doing nothing but working to follow that course of action, and we’ve been fortunate to enjoy significant success.

None of that matters, though. I got my start in politics (such as it was) working for you and for President Bush 43, and I’ve spent much of my adult life working to support the President. The last thing I would ever want to do is place either of you in a difficult situation.

When I asked to visit with President Bush 41, and he very kindly agreed, I imagined that we would spend maybe 20 minutes talking about the race, he would give his insights on Texas politics, and that would be it. I could not have been more astonished when he offered his support and gave me a personal check for the campaign.

Obviously, I recognize that President Bush 41’s support is a very big deal, and inded I had been in discussions with his office about our issuing a press release about the endorsement. Given the concerns you expressed this afternoon, I have told 41’s office that we will skip the press release altogether (see below).

His support will of course attract attention (much of which will be beyond my control), but I will very much follow your counsel to downplay the support and not highlight it in any way.

My hope is that this race will ultimately end up in a win-win scenario, that Dan will choose to run for the new Dallas congressional seat that will be drawn in 2012 and that he and I can work together as friends and allies for a long time. I know that a number of key donors have been urging precisely that course of action, which, if Dan were to choose to follow, would perhaps alleviate some of the concerns we discussed.

I know that it doesn’t rise to the importance of what you have been doing these past eight years, but I do think there is a real need right now for new leadership in the Republican Party, and I am hopeful that this campaign can play at least some role in helping provide that leadership. Your legacy and President Bush 43’s legacy, and especially the enormous progress y’all made in the Hispanic community, are too important not to keep pressing ahead.

Karl, you’ve been a friend and mentor a long time, and I value that friendship immensely. Please let me know anything I can possibly do to address your and President Bush 43’s concerns.

Thanks so much.

Ted.

—– Forwarded Message —- From: Ted Cruz To: President George H.W. Bush’s assistant Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 11:19:00 PM Subject: Discretion being the better part of valor

Jean,

I spoke with Karl this afternoon, and he expressed real concerns that our drawing attention to President Bush 41’s very kind support of the campaign would put President Bush 43 in a difficult position. The last thing I want to do is cause any trouble, so it’s probably wiser just to forego this press release.

So, unless you disagree, I think it probably makes sense simply to include 41 on our overall list of donors, but not to do any separate release or anything highlighting his support, for which I remain deeply, deeply grateful.

Thanks so much,

Ted.


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1 posted on 07/06/2015 11:07:30 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

Rove is a liar and a sleezy SOB.


2 posted on 07/06/2015 11:10:19 AM PDT by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance.)
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To: jimbo123

Who to believe? Tokyo Rove or Ted? Decisions, decisions.


3 posted on 07/06/2015 11:11:30 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("One man with a gun can control a hundred without one." -- Vladimir Lenin)
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To: jimbo123

Have made it clear I am no fan of Cruz, but he gets 3 huge cheers from me for ANYTIME with which he can slap Rove around.


4 posted on 07/06/2015 11:11:51 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: jimbo123

This is one of my favorite parts of Cruz’s book. Don’t think old Karl will be endorsing Ted. Since Karl supports RINO’s , not getting his endorsement is a good thing.


5 posted on 07/06/2015 11:12:01 AM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: jimbo123

If hillary had custody of the emails, they’d have been “lost” years ago.


6 posted on 07/06/2015 11:13:16 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (If a border fence isn't effective, why is there a border fence around the White House?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yes. It is a hard decision. On the one hand you have an evil lying scumbag traitor who never misses a chance to stab a conservative in the back... and on the other hand you have a true conservative.

Who to believe? Who to believe?


7 posted on 07/06/2015 11:13:39 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman

I share your dilemma. :)


8 posted on 07/06/2015 11:18:29 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("One man with a gun can control a hundred without one." -- Vladimir Lenin)
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To: samtheman

I choose to believe Senator Cruz—LOL!

I’m all for him!


9 posted on 07/06/2015 11:19:09 AM PDT by basil
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To: jimbo123

If we were to check Mr. Rove’s finances I wouldn’t be surprised if he got checks from the Democratic National Committee for consultant work on their behalf. Someone like him plays on both sides of the fence.


10 posted on 07/06/2015 11:21:04 AM PDT by dowcaet
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To: basil

I can’t figure out what happened or what’s going on now, and I went to Cruz’s site and read the thing.... unclear is the only word that works.


11 posted on 07/06/2015 11:21:46 AM PDT by Technical Editor
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Choose wisely


12 posted on 07/06/2015 11:22:11 AM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Ted Cruz Sets Record Straight With Karl Rove”

It is impossible to believe that Karl Rove would take ANY constructive criticism, even when laid out before him in simple and logical terms. Karl Rove is an ideologue inseparably tied to the Bush doctrines, a sort of muddled version of what the Republican Establishment presumes to think are “conservative” values. “Compassionate conservatism” is a complete oxymoron. It was cognitive dissonance when it was first announced, and critical thinking reveals it as even more of a skewed concept.

Emotion triumphs over good sense.


13 posted on 07/06/2015 11:22:54 AM PDT by alloysteel (If Stupidity got us into this mess, then why canÂ’t it get us out? - Will Rogers.)
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To: jimbo123; Kale; Jarhead9297; COUNTrecount; notaliberal; DoughtyOne; MountainDad; aposiopetic; ...
    Ted Cruz Ping!

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    Please beware, this is a high-volume ping list!

    CRUZ or LOSE!

14 posted on 07/06/2015 11:23:33 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: tennmountainman
Yeah, somebody should write a book about that idiot.....


15 posted on 07/06/2015 11:25:49 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: RIghtwardHo
Have made it clear I am no fan of Cruz
Any particular reason?
16 posted on 07/06/2015 11:28:28 AM PDT by dainbramaged (Get out of my country now)
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To: jimbo123

Cruz is not served well by making his association with RINOs- an issue.


17 posted on 07/06/2015 11:31:48 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: jimbo123

Rove has an estate in the Austin area, or so I have heard.

He fits well in the environment.


18 posted on 07/06/2015 11:34:04 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (It is not heaven, it is Iowa. Everyone gets a "Corn Check")
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To: tennmountainman

Yes, he is.


19 posted on 07/06/2015 11:35:23 AM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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To: jimbo123
Cruz is much too much of a gentleman to ever say this, but, if it was me; I would tell Rover to sit in a round room and go piss in the corner!
20 posted on 07/06/2015 11:37:27 AM PDT by paratrooper82 ( 82nd ABN DIV. 1/508th BN "Fury from the Sky" Civil war is coming)
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