It is so successful there that Muslims are forced to use machetes to hack their soldiers apart on the streets.
There are lies, damn lies, and statistics.
My understanding is the statistic includes police shootings, in Britain they disarmed the police in large part.
One thing Piers Morgan and his ilk fail to tell people about the United Kingdom’s experience with gun control is that it was not until about 1967 that a police permit was required to buy a standard shotgun. Before then, the laws pertaining to shotguns (and most other types of firearms) were very casual and crime (including homicide) was even lower than what it is today.
The police permit was introduced to divert public attention away from the British government’s abolition of the death penalty in 1965 followed by increased violence in Northern Ireland and a general upswing in violent crime overall.
I can remember reading in David Kopel’s book “The Samurai, The Mountie, and The Cowboy” him stating that the British government meted out the death penalty at a rate that would make Texas look soft on murderers right up until it was abolished.
I daresay it was, when Dr. Watson slipped his service revolver into his pocket and followed Holmes on a case.
“Bogus gun control successes”
I had nothing to do with them!
To be fair, there were few handguns in England prior to gun control being implemented.
What really matters is the number of homicides and violent crimes as a percentage of the total population. Different countries use different standards of classification for violent crimes. Also, if a violent crime is averted by the victim pulling his pistol and scaring away the criminal without firing a shot, that type of thing does not normally become part of the crime statistics.
Post-communist Russia enacted a total ban on privately owned or possessed handguns and practically all long guns with an exception for registered long guns used by licensed hunters during hunting season. However, a recent study by 2 Harvard professors of European gun laws and murder rates found that Russia's murder rate is now almost 4 times that of the US. And the majority of those murders are committed either by using bare hands or by using everyday tools and implements such as hammers, axes, knives, metal pipes, baseball bats, poison, wooden clubs, rope, etc.
The logical conclusion that an unbiased individual would make from those data would be that easy access to guns doesn't cause people to kill other people, but in fact guns deter more murders, assaults, thefts, and crime in general than any other factor. But when did a mind numbed gun-grabber ever come to a logical conclusion based on actual facts?
‘Dispelling The Myth – Why the UK is NOT more violent than the US
INTRODUCTION: ======================================
First and foremost, I want to say this isn’t a statement about American’s right to bear arms, or about what I think about that. This is not the argument at stake here, and I’m not even going to go there.
Do I disagree with the rights of civilians (not just American ones) to arm themselves? Yes, yes I do. But that is my opinion, everybody has one, they all stink, and opinions are not based on palpable, objective facts, but on subjective thoughts, emotions and prejudices and bias. Which is why I’m not even going to debate that.
But there is something I will debate, and fight, and argue against. The notion that the US is somehow, a safer country than the UK. On the 14th of December 2012, armed gunman Adam Lanza shot and killed 26 children in a sad and deplorable shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in the United States. A notable consequence of this disaster was an episode of CNN’s Piers Morgan Tonight show where the British journalist and television host made statements to the effect Britain is a safer country than the US because Britain has strict gun control laws vis-a-vis the United States. From these statements, a barrage of claims have been advanced by pro-gun advocates in particular (but not exclusively) quoting reports, surveys and statistics indicating that the United Kingdom has anywhere from 4 to five to 10 times more “violent crime” than the US does. One particular example is a segment of Fox’s WXIX affiliate in Cincinnati entitled “Reality Check” where presenter Ben Swann makes a series of statements and cites a number of “statistics” of the type mentioned above, indicating these prove the UK is not only five times more “violent” than the US, but also Europe’s second most violent country overall.
What shocks me the most about these statistics isn’t that they might be true, its how easily certain people cling to them, and the total, abject lack of any independent critical thinking or any interest in fact, of getting to the truth. Well, someone has to do it, and I have. It may have taken a few days, and more work, time and effort than I’ve probably dedicated to far more deserving University papers and academic work, but here it is. The reasons why, in short, bloggers, journalists, media outlets, armchair political scientists and opinionated fools are basically lying to you when they say the UK has a higher rate of “violent crime” than the US.
Has anybody stopped to even figure out why that may be? How that can be possible? How the UK defines violent crime? That what may constitute “rape” in the UK does not in the US and vice versa? Well, I have. And here are my findings.’
http://dispellingthemythukvsusguns.wordpress.com/
By the Numbers: Is the UK really 5 times more violent than the US?
The lesson is that Cultures differ... and if you run the numbers for the US for our Urban cultures vs our non-urban areas, most of the territory within our borders have gun violence rates close to that of England and Europe. It is the “urban youth” (and the wannabe’s) that make our numbers jump.
I found the rates for urban core vs suburban (surrounding the metro cores) for 2001 and 2011... and not surprisingly, it is almost exactly triple the suburban figure each time. (I’m assuming rural areas will be even lower)
The only effective method for combating violent crime in the UK is for the intended victims to immediately begin badly-garbled recitations of Chaucer’s Canterbury Tales in the original Middle English. Violent yobs will flee at the sound thereof.