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Anti-bikie laws are getting public used to loss of civil liberties, academic warns
The Guardian ^ | July 1, 2015 | Joshua Robertson

Posted on 07/03/2015 7:49:48 AM PDT by don-o

The spread of anti-terrorism-style laws through Australia’s criminal justice system is conditioning the public to accept “severe and disproportionate” losses of civil liberties, a legal academic has warned.

South Australia has drafted laws that would permanently tag members of motorcycle gangs as “criminal organisation participants”, leaving them facing the lifetime risk of jail for associating with others even if they had quit a gang.

The measures were introduced despite the South Australian government’s blueprint being under review in Queensland, where its Labor counterpart has a taskforce to recommend ways to repeal or replace gang laws once touted as the world’s toughest.

University of Queensland’s Rebecca Ananian-Welsh said it was the latest example of “extreme measures” adopted from terrorism legislation under the same rhetoric but without proof that they helped eradicate organised crime.

Ananian-Welsh and the University of NSW professor George Williams in a recent study (pdf) traced the “creep” of federal anti-terrorism laws, including the use of control orders, secret evidence, crimes of association and a shift in the burden of proof, into state criminal laws.

They argued the Australian experience offered a “cautionary tale” to other countries, with high court judges unable to act on concerns in the absence of “constitutional protections for human rights or due process”.

Ananian-Welsh told Guardian Australia the South Australian bill had gone a step further than the Queensland laws by permanently eroding the rights of anyone who even tried to join a bikie gang.

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: statist; waco
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1 posted on 07/03/2015 7:49:49 AM PDT by don-o
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To: BlueDragon

ping


2 posted on 07/03/2015 7:50:12 AM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: don-o

What does the govt have against bikers suddenly? I think WACO was a shot across the bow.

I think the million motorcycles that showed up in Washington for Rolling Thunder scared the pants off them

A million man army right there.


3 posted on 07/03/2015 8:07:27 AM PDT by Mr. K (Palin/Cruz - to defeat HilLIARy/Warren)
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To: don-o
Hey speaking of Australia, remember the Bandidos biker-on-biker massacre in Milperra?
4 posted on 07/03/2015 8:10:12 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: Mr. K

Maybe this is a wild idea, but could it be the motorcycle is the modern horse (you only have to feed it gas, most of the time) and there is something symbolic about private horsemen that tyranny hates.


5 posted on 07/03/2015 8:10:36 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Mr. K

How many actual combat troops does our military have?

If Obama turns them on the people, i think we actually have way more guns than them

Is that why Obammy bought up all the ammo?


6 posted on 07/03/2015 8:13:00 AM PDT by Mr. K (Palin/Cruz - to defeat HilLIARy/Warren)
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To: Mr. K

How many actual combat troops does our military have?

If Obama turns them on the people, i think we actually have way more guns than them

Is that why Obammy bought up all the ammo?


7 posted on 07/03/2015 8:13:03 AM PDT by Mr. K (Palin/Cruz - to defeat HilLIARy/Warren)
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To: don-o

Sorry, but motorcycles have good gas mileage, generally speaking. I don’t have a genuine motorcycle, but I don’t see why some people other than me shouldn’t have em.


8 posted on 07/03/2015 8:15:06 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Mr. K

But carpet bombing and MOAB use alone kills so many a piece, not to mention hellfire missiles. Military uses destructive weapons against targets so that even when outnumbered they still win.


9 posted on 07/03/2015 8:16:41 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: don-o

What will they consider a biker gang? Our BMW Owners get togethers are about as big a threat as a quilting bee.


10 posted on 07/03/2015 8:17:10 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (I lost my phased plasma rifle in a tragic hovercraft accident.)
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To: Mr. K
Not to crush your illusion, but remember the Highway of Death incident from the Gulf War?

A dozen a piece of attack helicopters, Warthogs, and F/A-18's would reduce that million man army...To a significantly fewer man army, in short order.

11 posted on 07/03/2015 8:20:47 AM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd
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What will they consider a biker gang?

Executive Orders are so easy.

12 posted on 07/03/2015 8:21:20 AM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: don-o

Bikers and Christians... both will soon be outlaw


13 posted on 07/03/2015 8:24:03 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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Our BMW Owners get togethers are about as big a threat as a quilting bee.

How about the local Honda Gold Wing gang that I call Heck's Angels?

14 posted on 07/03/2015 8:26:20 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (The 1st amendment is the voice and the 2nd is the teeth of freedom. Obama wants to knock out both.)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
Which is why it will have to be a guerrilla war.

Strike and fade away. Strike and fade away. etc.

(Now I'm gong to fade away from the NSA’s gaze at this post.)

15 posted on 07/03/2015 8:27:00 AM PDT by 2111USMC (Aim Small Miss Small)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Bikers and Christians

This biker murdered a whole bunch of witnesses. His biker friends helped him and he was helping them out too.


16 posted on 07/03/2015 8:34:04 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Soon, the world will see Christians as though they were like this too.

The story of how King David carried on when he was hounded out of his throne after his sin with Bathsheba is interesting. He joined up with “worthless ruffians.”

That is a funky hunk of nose jewelry though.


17 posted on 07/03/2015 8:37:08 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Soon, the world will see Christians as though they were like this too. The story of how King David carried on when he was hounded out of his throne after his sin with Bathsheba is interesting. He joined up with “worthless ruffians.”

Seems that no amount of grim reality will get you to quit riding these sociopaths' nuts.

18 posted on 07/03/2015 8:41:45 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

You lie and blaspheme.


19 posted on 07/03/2015 8:42:49 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
You lie and blaspheme.

You're a completely demented nut.

20 posted on 07/03/2015 8:44:06 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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