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Majority see Confederate flag as symbol of pride, not hate
The Hill ^ | 07/02/2015 | Ben Kamisar

Posted on 07/02/2015 1:44:57 PM PDT by ScottWalkerForPresident2016

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21 posted on 07/02/2015 2:34:48 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: ScottWalkerForPresident2016
Pride in what? For one hundred and fifty years every Southerner has enjoyed every blessing of liberty every other American has. How would life have been for African-Americans if the South had prevailed?
22 posted on 07/02/2015 2:37:43 PM PDT by jmacusa
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To: ScottWalkerForPresident2016

Because it was under threat of questioning and possible impeachment proceedings by its so called political opposition the regime started this war. It was through the use of racial division. It created persons engaged felonious assults on authority who were black youths into a victim of an evil society (thus approving their actions) out of whole cloth.

The regime began with the Zimmerman case which led to a series of assults by black youths on completely innocent whites,”hispanics”, and asians who were either targeted or wandered near or through black gang infested areas. The perpetators excuse; The reported “cold blood killing of Treyvon Martin because he was black”

It led to a score or more deaths and serious injuries. And it was met with silence while this was happening. Neither the locqatious POTUS or his political opposition uttered as much as a “Now!,Now! or a “tsk!,tsk!”

Those killings were referenced by the Charleston Church massacre perpetrator in his crazed manifesto.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3302529/posts
“Well we can’t let that out. Oh ! His face book has him holding a Confederate battle flag that must be his excuse “The Confederates made him do this horrible act ! Let’s get them


23 posted on 07/02/2015 3:20:42 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Some of my best rebuttals are in FR's along with meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: ScottWalkerForPresident2016

Thanks to the PC police, the Confederate flag has much more importance today than it did two weeks ago. It has been reborn as a symbol of anti-elitism.


24 posted on 07/02/2015 3:25:33 PM PDT by AdaGray
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To: ScottWalkerForPresident2016

I guess I’m going to have to give Cooter a piece of my mind. I ordered some Confederate stuff on the day of the SC fag ruling and still ain’t got it yet.


25 posted on 07/02/2015 4:10:11 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (I'll vote for a democrat before I'll vote for a rino.)
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To: ScottWalkerForPresident2016

Walker made another bad hire with Brad Dayspring.


26 posted on 07/02/2015 4:10:16 PM PDT by MN_Mike (Cruz 2016)
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To: RginTN

If you read your history you will recognize that the War of Northern Aggression was fought for a variety of reason, one of which, sadly, was slavery. However, I am unaware of any law or governmental edict from the North that freed any slaves prior to the 1862 Emancipation Proclamation, and it only freed slaves in states that had rebelled. You say the” Confederate Constitution didn’t embrace liberty for all”, but neither did the US Constitution until passage of the 13th Amendment in 1865. Prior to that time, the law of the land was the Fugitive Slave Act, which required runaway slaves to be returned to their masters. So if the southern states weren’t in any actual threat of losing their slaves prior to year-end 1862, I find it hard to accept the common myth that the War, which began April 12, 1861, was primarily about slavery. It was, in fact, a war of rebellion against Federal tyranny. Less than 1% of Southern whites owned slaves. The overwhelming majority of people weren’t fighting to save something (slavery) that had no economic benefit to them. I don’t own a Confederate Battle flag, and if I did I would not fly it because I have African American neighbors who would probably take it as a slight, although none would be intended as I know the history of the flag and not the lies told about it to further criticize the South. I am one southerner that is tired of having people in the North tell me what is acceptable. I laugh sometimes at the things they advocate, but as long as they leave me alone, let them live however they choose. Nevertheless, when they try to impose their opinions on me I am afraid I do not take kindly to that intrusion; and like my ancestors I intend to resist their officious intermeddling. That’s my Southern pride, and it flows from my Southern heritage and no one will take it away from me so long as I live.


27 posted on 07/02/2015 5:11:44 PM PDT by burghguy
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You're right that the War of Southern Insurrection was fought over slavery. The north fought because they were attacked and wanted to preserve the union. The sough went to war in order to defend what they saw as the inevitability of outlawed slavery.

However, I am unaware of any law or governmental edict from the North that freed any slaves prior to the 1862 Emancipation Proclamation, and it only freed slaves in states that had rebelled.

Every northern state had some form of path to emancipation and slavery had been, for all intents and purposes, moribund in the northern states.

It was, in fact, a war of rebellion against Federal tyranny.

The only tyranny came from the traitorous south.

28 posted on 07/02/2015 8:09:26 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: RginTN

How about the northern generals who had slaves till 1866? Can you explain that please?


29 posted on 07/02/2015 8:30:14 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: rockrr

You are so misinformed.


30 posted on 07/02/2015 8:33:12 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: rockrr

What a crock of BS. The South was perfectly happy to leave the Union and go its own way, but the North would have none of that. Lincoln was desperate to preserve the Union for economic reasons but he could have cared less about slavery. Did you know that before he issued the Emancipation Proclamation he gave the rebel states 100 days notice and offered any state that would return to the Union an exemption from the Proclamation, as was the case everywhere else, including the border states and in the Union. Robert E. Lee freed his slaves in 1862 but US Grant kept his until 1865. You Yankees are so full of crap. I lived in the North for almost 30 years. It was the much more segregated than today in the South.


31 posted on 07/02/2015 8:52:59 PM PDT by burghguy
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To: burghguy
Lincoln was desperate to preserve the Union for economic reasons but he could have cared less about slavery.

What a crock of BS.

32 posted on 07/02/2015 9:20:09 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: ScottWalkerForPresident2016

Who cares what the majority believes or wants - it’s what the latest favored martyred minority thinks that counts.....


33 posted on 07/02/2015 9:34:17 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

How about the northern generals who had slaves till 1866? Can you explain that please?


why? this is about what does southern pride/the confederate flag mean.

You can start a new thread on Northern Pride...though I’ve never heard that phrase by northerners.


34 posted on 07/02/2015 9:47:02 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: rockrr

How original. You sir are no student of history.


35 posted on 07/03/2015 3:47:51 AM PDT by burghguy
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To: burghguy

I was only attempting to communicate on your level. And no - I’m no student of lost cause revisionist history.


36 posted on 07/03/2015 6:57:39 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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