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John Lennon was right about overpopulation
LifeSiteNews ^ | 7/1/15 | John Stonestreet

Posted on 07/02/2015 7:39:48 AM PDT by wagglebee

(Breakpoint) - In a 1971 appearance on the Dick Cavett Show, John Lennon and wife Yoko Ono gave their take on the big scare of the day: overpopulation.

“I don't really believe it,” Lennon said in his Beatle-esque Liverpool accent. “I think whatever happens will balance itself out...It's alright for us all living to say, 'Well, there's enough of us [people] so we won't have any more...I don't believe in that.”

It was a counter-cultural statement—even for the voice of the counterculture. Back then, all of the experts were warning that our planet couldn't take much more. And no one sounded that alarm more loudly than Dr. Paul Ehrlich, the Stanford biologist behind the explosive bestseller, “The Population Bomb.”

“The battle to feed all of humanity is over,” Ehrlich announced on the opening page of his book, forecasting “an utter breakdown in the capacity of the planet to support humanity,” resulting in starvation for hundreds of millions. Half of Americans would die by the end of the eighties, he said; India and China would self-destruct, and by the year 2000, England wouldn't exist. “Sometime in the next 15 years,” Ehrlich confidently predicted the year before Lennon's Dick Cavett appearance, “the end will come.”

Well it’s forty-five years later, and we have twice the number of people Ehrlich said would exceed the earth's carrying capacity. The end has not come, and England mysteriously still exists.

In a surprising and honest move, the New York Times ran a piece this month debunking the horrors of overpopulation. A video attached with the article features Stewart Brand, a former disciple of Ehrlich's who’s now a critic, and who helped popularize his theory and played a major role in pushing for population control in the sixties and seventies.

In the video, Brand acknowledges that “The concerns about population became misanthropic.” He pointed out that people took Ehrlich seriously when he suggested lacing public water with anti-fertility drugs.

Along with Ehrlich, Brand led a movement of Americans who took to heart his call for “a system of incentives and penalties,” to reduce childbearing, even “by compulsion if voluntary methods fail.” Ehrlich and his followers proposed “responsibility prizes” for childless marriages, a steep tax on families with more than three children, even a “blacklist of people, companies, and organizations impeding population control.”

But it was in other parts of the world where the idea behind Ehrlich's book really took root. Throughout the 70s, the Indian government undertook a program of population control that saw more than eight million women surgically sterilized. Untold numbers of these procedures were forced, and many resulted in death. The patients, in the words of one Indian family-planning official, “were treated like cattle.” And China, with its infamous One Child Policy, took even more drastic measures.

None of this defused the population bomb, though. What did, argues Brand, were advances in agriculture and economics in developing nations—advances Ehrlich could have never foreseen, and which his worldview precluded. And so today, despite an increase of four billion people, fewer people today suffer from extreme poverty or hunger than when Ehrlich wrote the book.

Explaining Ehrlich's failed prediction, Indian Economist Gita Sen told The Times, “There's a tendency to apply to human beings the same sort of models that may apply for the insect world.” The difference? We’re not insects. “[H]uman beings are conscious beings, and we do all kinds of things to change our destiny.”

Of course, what Sen calls “destiny,” we Christians would call providence. And part of God’s control is exhibited in the creativity and innovation humans are just so good at—and which can be used for evil, but can also be used for good. In short, Christians see human beings as image bearers, not insects. And ironically, sometimes it takes the voice of a Beatle to remind us of that.

Reprinted with permission from Breakpoint


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KEYWORDS: eugenics; johnlennon; moralabsolutes; populationcontrol; prolife
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Explaining Ehrlich's failed prediction, Indian Economist Gita Sen told The Times, “There's a tendency to apply to human beings the same sort of models that may apply for the insect world.” The difference? We’re not insects. “[H]uman beings are conscious beings, and we do all kinds of things to change our destiny.”

Perfect explanation.

1 posted on 07/02/2015 7:39:48 AM PDT by wagglebee
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3 posted on 07/02/2015 7:40:54 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

John Lennon also asked us to imagine NO HEAVEN, NO COUNRTIES, NO POSSESSIONS, NO RELIGION too.

And he hopes someday we’ll join him so that the world will live as one...


4 posted on 07/02/2015 7:41:54 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: wagglebee

I liked John Lennon, loved him actually.

Erlich on the other hand I can’t stand. He’s a fraud and a dangerous lunatic.


5 posted on 07/02/2015 7:43:33 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: SeekAndFind

Imagine there’s no Yoko.


6 posted on 07/02/2015 7:43:43 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Lennon wrote that, many people have adopted it, he was wrong to write it. That said, I understand once a friend was visiting him and he had some sort of expensive collection of China plates, something like this. His friend said to him, “But John, you wrote that song, “no possessions”” and Lennon said “It’s just a bloody song”.


7 posted on 07/02/2015 7:44:11 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: wagglebee

There is no over-population.


8 posted on 07/02/2015 7:45:45 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: wagglebee
All you need to know about Lennon and his wife. BTW, his stats were lies.


9 posted on 07/02/2015 7:46:22 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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What did, argues Brand, were advances in agriculture and economics in developing nations—advances Ehrlich could have never forseen clearly forseen, had he had a basic understanding of God, God's creation of mankind, and principles of free market economics which have been documented for centuries, and which his worldview precluded. And so today, despite an increase of four billion people, fewer people today suffer from extreme poverty or hunger than when Ehrlich wrote the book.
10 posted on 07/02/2015 7:47:00 AM PDT by mbarker12474
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To: wagglebee

Ehrlich is a complete fool.

Every prediction that he’s had is wrong.

His miserable “machine gun” quote is disgusting.

He hates humanity with a burning passion.

I doubt that he could predict whether or not he’d be able to make it to his own dentist appointment...


11 posted on 07/02/2015 7:47:17 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: wagglebee

Ehrlich apparently never took the interstate through Illinois, Iowa or Kansas.


12 posted on 07/02/2015 7:47:21 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (The only cleaning "Woman of the People" HRC has done in the last 25 yrs was wiping her server.)
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To: BeadCounter

RE: Lennon said “It’s just a bloody song”.

In other words, Lennon is telling us not to take the words seriously... Unfortunately, too many people have made it the anthem for their cause.


13 posted on 07/02/2015 7:47:33 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: wagglebee

Some years ago, PJ O’Rourke observed that liberals will stand around a crowded room with their fellow kind drink in hand, discussing their recent trip to India or Bangladesh, and wax eloquent about the horrors of over population, yet they seem to be fine with crowds of like-minded liberals shopping at whole foods or at a gay parade. Deconstruction reveals that they just don’t like people unlike themselves. Period.


14 posted on 07/02/2015 7:47:44 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: wagglebee

Remember when we all died about 10 years ago like Ehrlich predicted?

...neither does anyone else!


15 posted on 07/02/2015 7:48:11 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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Erlich on the other hand I can’t stand. He’s a fraud and a dangerous lunatic.

Totally agree, people can read up on Paul Ehrlich, on top of everything else, I think his forecasts have notoriously been shown to be a bunch of bunk. An aborto-Nazi for sure.

Lennon is pros and cons with me, he definitely has some views he expressed or things he did, I can't agree with. But maybe overall, his heart was in the right place, probably was. He just went through some heavy confusion and one can see that in his music.

And some great songs he wrote to boot.

16 posted on 07/02/2015 7:48:32 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: SeekAndFind

> John Lennon also asked us to imagine NO HEAVEN, NO COUNRTIES, NO POSSESSIONS, NO RELIGION too.

And he hopes someday we’ll join him so that the world will live as one...

Now that he’s dead I wonder if he’s changed his tune about no heaven and no religion. And for a guy who said “no possessions” he sure had a lot of ‘em. I guess people forget he was just a songwriter and not an atheist preacher...I know a crazy gal that acts as though he’s a god and worships him. She’s liberal of course not that I had to say it.


17 posted on 07/02/2015 7:48:51 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: SeekAndFind
In other words, Lennon is telling us not to take the words seriously... Unfortunately, too many people have made it the anthem for their cause.

Totally agree, Neil Young and that Ci Lowe or whatever it is both sang "Imagine" and took out the atheistic sounding rubbish, "and no religion too", Neil Young even took that out and that video is over at youtube.

There are many discussions on Lennon, some say towards the end of his life, he might have bucked the atheistic sounding stuff and may have acknowledged a spiritual force. Does he have a song actually called "God"? Maybe, I know he has a song where he does seem to ask God for help. I can find it I am sure.

18 posted on 07/02/2015 7:51:35 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: mbarker12474
I think it was the statement out Ehrlich's worldview precluding it that was the crux of the issue. Ehrlich's theories were inherently wrong because of massive confirmation bias in which he ignore any evidence that negated his preferred conclusion.
19 posted on 07/02/2015 7:51:39 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

He conveniently left out stats for Great Britain and Yoko left out stats for Japan...


20 posted on 07/02/2015 7:51:43 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (‘You can avoid reality, but you can’t avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.’)
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