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Gay Marriage Ruling Paves The Way for Concealed Carry National Reciprocity
AmmoLand Shooting Sports News ^ | June 29, 2015 | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 06/30/2015 6:42:59 AM PDT by all the best

When the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that every state must recognize same sex marriages, they used a basis for judgement that will not easily stop at same sex marriage.

In fact, it is a basis for judgement that should offer itself to national reciprocity of concealed carry permits and permit holders.

The SCOTUS legalized same sex marriage by finding a right which Justices Anthony Kennedy, Ruth Bader Ginsburg , Sonia Sotomayor, Stephen G. Breyer, and Elena Kagan ruled as beyond a state-by-state prerogative via the 14th Amendment.

Crucial in this ruling is the fact that same sex marriage–now recognized by the SCOTUS–is not the only right the 14th Amendment shields from state-by-state prerogative and/or recognition.

Consider this pertinent aspect of the court’s Majority Opinion, written by Justice Kennedy and printed by the LA Times:

Under the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, no State shall “deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.” The fundamental liberties protected by this Clause include most of the rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights.

Now the question–Are 2nd Amendment rights among those “protected by this Clause”?

If we take the SCOTUS at its word, then yes, 2nd Amendment rights are protected under the 14th Amendment. After all, it was by viewing 2nd Amendment rights as incorporated under the 14th Amendment that the SCOTUS struck down Chicago’s gun ban in McDonald v Chicago (2010).

Moreover, two years earlier–in District of Columbia v Heller (2008)–the SCOTUS ruled that the 2nd Amendment rights were “fundamental” in and of themselves as well as “fundamental to the Nation’s scheme of ordered liberty” (IIT Chicago-Kent College of Law)

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1 posted on 06/30/2015 6:42:59 AM PDT by all the best
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To: all the best

This is ridiculous. Anyone who thinks the courts will be logically consistent (after the Supreme Court demonstrated that it can do the opposite of the plain meaning of words and legislate from the bench) is kidding themselves.


2 posted on 06/30/2015 6:47:07 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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To: Steely Tom

Correct. Unfortunately, the law is “whatever”.


3 posted on 06/30/2015 6:50:29 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Henry Bowman where are you?)
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To: Steely Tom

Absolutely. Anyone who thinks arbitrary tyrants like Bader-Ginsburg, Soda-Mayor, Kagan, Breyer, that senile imbecile Kennedy, or that weeping coward Roberts (is he related to Boehner?) or their ilk would be consistent on ANYTHING, is dilusional. Nice thought, wish it would happen, but totally impossible with these criminals in SCOTUS.


4 posted on 06/30/2015 6:51:56 AM PDT by ZULU (Roberts, Kennedy, Boehner and McConnell are Obama's Strumpets.)
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To: all the best

This could be an area where selective enforcement comes into play.


5 posted on 06/30/2015 6:52:09 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: Steely Tom

Exactly. Rule of law is dead. ALL is the jurisdiction of the 5.


6 posted on 06/30/2015 6:52:26 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: all the best

So, who is going to file the federal lawsuit against New York, New Jersey, etc?


7 posted on 06/30/2015 6:52:27 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: all the best
“In fact, it is a basis for judgement that should offer itself to national reciprocity of concealed carry permits and permit holders.”

No it is not. The Supreme Court's renouncement of reason places all inalienable rights at immediate risk. Obama or Clinton needs to replace just one justice to obtain a 5-4 vote to have the Second Amendment read “shall be infringed.”

Or they can flash a signal and turn one of the weak sisters currently on the court.

8 posted on 06/30/2015 6:56:22 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: Steely Tom

So characteristic of this site. Never hold out hope, never see possibilities, always quench any signs of these in others. Loser mentality. The other side is the exact opposite. They think like winners.


9 posted on 06/30/2015 6:59:45 AM PDT by all the best
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To: all the best

Hope is not a strategy.


10 posted on 06/30/2015 7:00:36 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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To: ClearCase_guy
"The Law" is whatever that feckless moron Anthony Kennedy says it is.
11 posted on 06/30/2015 7:01:30 AM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: all the best

Already weighed in on this one but will again. No it won’t. no fundamental right found for “concealed carry”.


12 posted on 06/30/2015 7:02:57 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: all the best

Tell us about the possibilities you see.

I mean, assuming you’re not just blowing smoke.


13 posted on 06/30/2015 7:03:52 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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To: all the best

Pick one of the named justices above and send them a token of dignity befitting their decision - a butt plug (available from Amazon for under $5).

I sent a note with mine that “God doesn’t recognize your judicial immunity.”

hashtag ButtPlug4SCrOTUS


14 posted on 06/30/2015 7:09:22 AM PDT by RideForever (Recent purchaser of Deranged Go)
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To: all the best

Tomorrow is the first day of Constitutional carry in Kansas. Everybody who is eligible to own a gun can conceal carry.


15 posted on 06/30/2015 7:17:39 AM PDT by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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To: Steely Tom

Hope gives way to many things. Hope may not be “strategy” but it paves the way to create strategy. Hope gives way to other things as well, perseverance, courage and strength, unwavering fealty to that which you believe will be. The left hoped one day for 0bummer. The persevered until they got what they hoped for. They hoped then planned(strategy) put that plan into action and it became so. Had their hope not come about I am sure they would have continued hoping and planning to formulate a viable strategy in which they got what they hoped for.

Hope may not be strategy but it does give way to strategy and sets one on a path in which hope becomes eventual reality.

We don’t always get what we want but if we never try, never hope to get it or stop hoping, then by all means we will never ever get it.


16 posted on 06/30/2015 7:26:14 AM PDT by zaxtres
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To: Steely Tom

Precisely, if the court were limited by the law, precedent, or consistency, we wouldn’t be where we are now.

No, the Left will do what they damned well please. Tyranny has never been consistent.


17 posted on 06/30/2015 7:30:35 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: all the best

No no no American, the law works AGAINST you, that is the only way it works.


18 posted on 06/30/2015 7:43:39 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: ClearCase_guy

I wonder if this will include pot laws?


19 posted on 06/30/2015 7:46:01 AM PDT by lilypad
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To: all the best

This is a good idea. Someone with the resources and time needs to open carry with publicity in New York City. He won’t get 15 feet before the police arrest him. Presto! Standing.


20 posted on 06/30/2015 7:48:50 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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