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U.S. Senators Call For Arming Ukraine
Radio Free Europe ^ | June 20, 2015

Posted on 06/20/2015 5:25:58 AM PDT by McGruff

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To: McGruff

I’m glad McCain never had the opportunity to be alone with “the football”.


61 posted on 06/20/2015 7:03:17 AM PDT by moovova (I chose to identify as a youngster even though I wasn't born that way. Please respect my decision.)
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To: lodi90
Putin didn't start this new Cold War John McCain tells Ukraine protesters: 'We are here to support your just cause' did. Just like he did in Libya and Syria.
62 posted on 06/20/2015 7:05:36 AM PDT by McGruff (It's gonna get ugly round here.)
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To: Enlightened1

What is the Imminent National Security Threat to the United States in Ukraine?

Answer: None.... Let the EU worry about Ukraine.


This not about Ukraine. It’s about a nuclear power rampaging through Europe killing thousands while threatening to use nukes.

It is not in the national security or economic interest of the United States to allow this situation to continue. One part state fascist Russia must be stopped before they do any more damage to the world.


63 posted on 06/20/2015 7:05:40 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: McGruff; Thank You Rush

LOL.

You guys always tried that one, try to convince the public to give Russia a free hand, because there is always something else to do.

Don’t you think the Vietnam War was something big enough to distract us from our NATO defenses, if your comment made any sense?

It didn’t though.


64 posted on 06/20/2015 7:06:01 AM PDT by ansel12 (Trump- I identify as Democrat-- favorite president?-Clinton-- your veep? "Oprah my first choice".)
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To: ansel12

Well then tall me what part made it irrelevant. the guy IS the CIC afterall. He -Would- be running the war with Russia. If that’s what you prefer, then say so. Outright.

Say the words out loud and see how moronic it sounds...

“I want to go to war with Russia with Barack Hussien Obama directing American troops”

Go ahead.


65 posted on 06/20/2015 7:06:23 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: McGruff

Your time line is off. Putin invaded Georgia in 2008. He was appeased then so the Russian chauvinist adventures continue.


66 posted on 06/20/2015 7:07:04 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: McGruff

We are in a Cold War?

Russia stands alone, unless you count their support from Red China and North Korea.

There isn’t a “Cold War” as you claim, but Putin wants to reconquer enough empire to make it possible.


67 posted on 06/20/2015 7:09:00 AM PDT by ansel12 (Trump- I identify as Democrat-- favorite president?-Clinton-- your veep? "Oprah my first choice".)
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To: ansel12

Well then it’s up to his targets to arm up and defend THEIR country isn’t it.


68 posted on 06/20/2015 7:10:39 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: lodi90

“It’s about a nuclear power rampaging through Europe killing thousands while threatening to use nukes.”

“Nuclear power rampaging” through Europe????

NEWS FLASH. There is already Nuclear Power in Europe. France leads the way.

So again..... What is the Imminent National Security Threat to the United States in Ukraine?

Answer: None.... Let the EU worry about Ukraine.


69 posted on 06/20/2015 7:11:53 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Enlightened1

Another one who doesn’t remember what so many of us paid so much for, and who wants to undo what we accomplished under Reagan, as he saved the world from Russia.


70 posted on 06/20/2015 7:11:59 AM PDT by ansel12 (Trump- I identify as Democrat-- favorite president?-Clinton-- your veep? "Oprah my first choice".)
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To: ansel12

And Europe pissed it away. Actions have consequences. Not our job.


71 posted on 06/20/2015 7:16:34 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Timber Rattler

Actually it is far less than regional hegemony. What is at stake is the Crimea. The Crimea and the port has been aquired.

All the rest is diversion and window dressing


72 posted on 06/20/2015 7:21:24 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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To: McGruff

Putin’s losing a whole lot of soldiers in little bitty Ukraine.

Desperate baiting misinformation propaganda usually follows a losing cause....


73 posted on 06/20/2015 7:22:23 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (The Sun Never Sets on Liberal Idiocy)
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To: Enlightened1

Threats of nuclear war by Russia is not an “Imminent National Security threat” to the United States? Interesting threat matrix you have there, FRiend.


74 posted on 06/20/2015 7:23:14 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: bert

Actually it is far less than regional hegemony. What is at stake is the Crimea. The Crimea and the port has been aquired.

All the rest is diversion and window dressing


Nope. Putin’s kleptocracy can’t have a thriving, western leaning Ukraine because eventually the Russian people will begin to compare and contrast it to their own situation in one party fascist state Russia.


75 posted on 06/20/2015 7:30:08 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

How badly has Putin ruled?

The private intelligence firm Strategic Forecasting, or Stratfor, recently published its Decade Forecast in which it projects the next 10 years of global political and economic developments.

Russia will collapse ...
REUTERS/Sergei Karpukhin
“There will not be an uprising against Moscow, but Moscow’s withering ability to support and control the Russian Federation will leave a vacuum,” Stratfor warns. “What will exist in this vacuum will be the individual fragments of the Russian Federation.”

Sanctions, declining oil prices, a plunging ruble, rising military expenses, and increasing internal discord will weaken the hold of Russia’s central government over the world’s largest country. Russia will not officially split into multiple countries, but Moscow’s power may loosen to the point that Russia will effectively become a string of semi-autonomous regions that might not even get along with one another.

“We expect Moscow’s authority to weaken substantially, leading to the formal and informal fragmentation of Russia” the report states, adding, “It is unlikely that the Russian Federation will survive in its current form.”

... and the US will have to use its military to secure the country’s nukes.
Desmond Boylan/Reuters

Russia’s nuclear-weapons infrastructure is spread across a vast geographic area. If the political disintegration Stratfor predicts ever happens, it means that weapons, uranium stocks, and delivery systems could end up exposed in what will suddenly become the world’s most dangerous power vacuum.

The breakout of Russia’s nuclear weapons stockpile will be “the greatest crisis of the next decade,” according to Stratfor.

And the US will have to figure out what to do about it, even if it means dispatching ground troops to secure loose weapons, materials, and delivery systems.


76 posted on 06/20/2015 7:37:41 AM PDT by ansel12 (Trump- I identify as Democrat-- favorite president?-Clinton-- your veep? "Oprah my first choice".)
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To: donozark

Can it be that Sweden is afraid to sell them fearing Russia’s retribution? They are a small country not part of NATO after all.


77 posted on 06/21/2015 4:57:01 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: Krosan

Perhaps. Putin has already told Sweden not to join NATO. However, other NATO nations have many, many Gustavs in their inventory.


78 posted on 06/21/2015 5:28:35 AM PDT by donozark (BIG GREEN EGG-Turning hot dogs into mini-weiners since 1974.)
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To: donozark

It is a standard in weapon sale contracts between countries that modern advanced weapons can not be transferred without the permission of the original seller so these countries would still need Sweden’s permission.


79 posted on 06/21/2015 5:46:39 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: Krosan

Officially, yes. But even the Libyan Army had these.


80 posted on 06/21/2015 6:02:42 AM PDT by donozark (BIG GREEN EGG-Turning hot dogs into mini-weiners since 1974.)
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