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EPA proposes tougher mileage standards for trucks (to prevent global warming)
Fox News ^ | June 19, 2015

Posted on 06/19/2015 8:04:51 AM PDT by Zakeet

The Obama administration is issuing new rules intended to improve fuel efficiency for medium and heavy-duty trucks and cut pollution blamed for global warming.

The proposed standards are expected to lower cardon dioxide emissions by about 1 billion metric tons ...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climatechange; environment; epa; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; popefrancis; romancatholicism; trucks
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We have to obey the Pope!

1 posted on 06/19/2015 8:04:51 AM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

Just a question. Is there a government mandated mileage standard for electric or hybrid vehicles?


2 posted on 06/19/2015 8:05:56 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Zakeet
Yup. Must be ordained by God since the Pope has a direct line with God. /sarc
3 posted on 06/19/2015 8:07:02 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Gaffer

I think that they all fall under the same standards — make/model, etc.


4 posted on 06/19/2015 8:08:12 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Zakeet

Just how do they propose to do that? Invent a magical engine that runs on unicorn farts?


5 posted on 06/19/2015 8:09:03 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (A free society canÂ’t let the parameters of its speech be set by murderous Islamists.)
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To: dhs12345

Thanks


6 posted on 06/19/2015 8:09:14 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Zakeet

Shut down the trucking industry, shut down the airlines and shut down the coal electric plants.

We must save mother erf. We can all huddle in a big pile and sing kumbyai and admire dear leaders work.

I am not figuring that manna from heaven will happening this time. Quick someone ask the Pope.


7 posted on 06/19/2015 8:13:23 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (It is not heaven, it is Iowa. Everyone gets a "Corn Check")
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To: dhs12345
There is no global warming. There has been consistent cooling of the Eath since 1998. In fact there was record Ice in Antarctica last year and the global oceanographic temperatures are cooling. "Global warming" is a lie to control your ecomomics. It is a fraud.
8 posted on 06/19/2015 8:15:51 AM PDT by mrs ippi (Let's make America great again!!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

One of the best questions of all time!!!


9 posted on 06/19/2015 8:21:12 AM PDT by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416,Feisty Old Vet !!)
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To: Zakeet

EPA proposes tougher mileage standards for trucks (to prevent them from being used for any economically productive purpose)

There. Fixed it.


10 posted on 06/19/2015 8:26:26 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: EXCH54FE

Yep, no matter how much Obama thinks of himself as god, he cannot repeal the laws of physics or change the caloric heat value of diesel fuel.


11 posted on 06/19/2015 8:33:00 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (A free society canÂ’t let the parameters of its speech be set by murderous Islamists.)
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To: Gaffer

They use a very dishonest method for determining an ‘equivalent’ mileage.

Without getting into the specifics of how their method is flawed, consider a 2015 Volt. It has a battery range of 38 miles, and an mph of 35 city/40 highway. Using the 40 mpg, a fully charged Volt could travel 78 miles on a gallon of gas...yet the gubmint rates it at 98 mpge (e for equivalent). Makes perfect sense.

And since these mpg ratings are being used in calculations for making decisions to save us from globul warming, the methodology is even more flawed. The method treats electricity as magic fairy dust that comes out of the wall, and does not assign a ‘carbon footprint’ to it as it does to gasoline.

IOW, its just like statistics, and they can manipulate the parameters to get the results they want...and the sheeple lap it up.


12 posted on 06/19/2015 8:36:46 AM PDT by lacrew
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To: lacrew

They are dishonest period.


13 posted on 06/19/2015 8:47:23 AM PDT by precisionshootist (D)
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To: lacrew

Thanks!


14 posted on 06/19/2015 8:50:04 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: mrs ippi
Sorry, forgot the /sarc tag.

But Pope, er uh God says it is so. /sarc.

I know. It is all a feel good, love mother earth movement, that is a direct attack on middle class Americans and our livelihood in the form of new and higher taxes. Taxes on everything. EVERYTHING! It is based on faulty models and tainted data and a consortium of so called scientists who rely on the fear generated to insure that the grant money keeps flowing.

Belief in AWG is almost religious in nature in that it requires a leap of faith to believe that it is actually happening. And like a religion, it follows the rule: it is better to believe in it and be wrong than to not believe it and find out you were wrong (and be damned to the secular Hell whatever that might be).

15 posted on 06/19/2015 8:58:42 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: lacrew

It’s about time someone pointed out that these mileage standards really have nothing to do with protecting the environment, or with conserving energy. The real purpose of these changing regulations is to force obsolescence in major products through legislative mandates, thereby driving up demand for these products that otherwise wouldn’t be its. This is why the EPA introduced similar “pollution-control” mandates for diesel engines a couple of years ago ... and to no surprise for me, the diesel engine manufacturers were among the biggest supporters of those mandates.


16 posted on 06/19/2015 9:10:26 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: Alberta's Child

Sorry ... “that otherwise wouldn’t be there.”


17 posted on 06/19/2015 9:11:39 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: Zakeet

Can anybody explain to me what is meant by one billion metric tons of carbon emissions?

Firstly, there is no such critter as a metric ‘ton’. It is a metric tonne, or simply tonne, and is a unit of mass equal to 1000 kilograms.

The part that mystifies me is how can the emissions weigh more than the fuel that is being burned? A large part of the fuel is hydrogen, which combines with oxygen to form water.

I simply cannot fathom how you can create a billion tonnes of carbon emissions by burning 100 million tonnes of fuel. Or is the “metric ton” of carbon emissions just some silly term that has no basis in reality?


18 posted on 06/19/2015 9:21:55 AM PDT by punchamullah
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To: punchamullah

Silly term with no basis in reality.
Much like the left’s claim that we “murdered one hundred thousand civilians” in Iraq in 2003.
Take arbitrary number “a”, apply it to made up problem “b”, then apply it to result “c” basically.


19 posted on 06/19/2015 9:24:49 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: punchamullah

The emissions are the weight of CO2, with the O2 coming from the atmosphere. So, 1 mole of carbon (12 grams) creates 1 mole of CO2 (44 grams). That’s won’t get to a 10:1 ratio, even for pure carbon fuels; but it does result in the emissions weighing more than the fuel.


20 posted on 06/19/2015 9:36:18 AM PDT by Cboldt
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