Posted on 06/14/2015 3:17:22 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
The changes in crossing the Canada border took place after NAFTA but pre 9/11. I remember flying to Vancouver in 1988 and being surprised that they would only accept a passport as ID.
You could argue that some additional security measures would have been necessary post 9/11; however, I would argue that in the absence of NAFTA, we could have collaborated with Canada to jointly tighten our borders and still kept a relatively free movement of people across our northern border.
Really...does the name Phil Graham strike a cord about conflicts between between husband and wife’s positions? Phil in case you forgot was a senator from Texas. Interestinly he started his political career as a democrat.
BTW, I was a strong supporter of Phil when I lived in Texas.
They can export everything and we get to export all the rat gonads we want. Seems fair.
From my perspective in the last couple of decades, the only time you see legislation that has the name “Free” in it usually isn’t - EXCEPT when it comes to government entitlement programs for some pampered few who want to exist off others’ blood, sweat and tears.
Free Trade??? How about calling it Obama Trade?
The United States in the so called “Free Trade” still pays Tariffs to countries like China. However, China does not pay tariffs. How is that fair and not RIGGED?
Countries, like China, do not have to have the same regulations (lowering the standards of any product or service...., this should get the average Environmentalist in an uproar) and taxes too. China does not have the same standards to clear air, water, food, etc... How is that fair?
Thus, it encourages companies to leave the United States and actually lower their standards and pollute the environment. For example, even Obama ADMITS if U.S. Companies like the Coal Companies want to stay here he is going to tax and regulate them out of business. So they are forced to leave or they will be shut down.
Another example is to look at General Motors. They have moved their auto plants overseas on U.S. taxpayer funds. Oh and they have no plans to pay back the U.S. taxpayers ever. Why did they not build here? Because they would have to pay tariffs and they would be taxed and regulated to death.
During the second World War we targeted energy, factories, and industrial companies. That’s always a main target in war in order to shut down the country. That is happening to the United States. We are slowly being deindustrialized and slowly moving everything out.
This Obama trade, just like Obama care, it is a SCAM by our Establishment politicians in order to get rich quick by selling out the USA for 30 coins of silver.
This is why the Establishment leaves our borders wide open in post 911 world. They are trying to as Obama said, “Fundamentally Change the United States Forever” from what George Washington and the rest of the Founding Fathers set up over 200 years ago.
That is the reality that you will never hear in the faked controlled media. This is why many of these same certified on the record lying politicians will tell you to not listen to the counterpoints on the Internet. This is because on the Internet they can’t push their B.S. like they can in the controlled media.
I still think the argument is weak and diversionary from obvious flaws of this trade fiasco bill. It’s fine to be for another candidate; to me being for another candidate doesn’t require strained implications.
Free Trade??? How about calling it Obama Trade?
The United States in the so called “Free Trade” still pays Tariffs to countries like China. However, China does not pay tariffs. How is that fair and not RIGGED?
Countries, like China, do not have to have the same regulations (lowering the standards of any product or service...., this should get the average Environmentalist in an uproar) and taxes too. China does not have the same standards to clear air, water, food, etc... How is that fair?
Thus, it encourages companies to leave the United States and actually lower their standards and pollute the environment. For example, even Obama ADMITS if U.S. Companies like the Coal Companies want to stay here he is going to tax and regulate them out of business. So they are forced to leave or they will be shut down.
Another example is to look at General Motors. They have moved their auto plants overseas on U.S. taxpayer funds. Oh and they have no plans to pay back the U.S. taxpayers ever. Why did they not build here? Because they would have to pay tariffs and they would be taxed and regulated to death.
During the second World War we targeted energy, factories, and industrial companies. That’s always a main target in war in order to shut down the country. That is happening to the United States. We are slowly being deindustrialized and slowly moving everything out.
This Obama trade, just like Obama care, it is a SCAM by our Establishment politicians in order to get rich quick by selling out the USA for 30 coins of silver.
This is why the Establishment leaves our borders wide open in post 911 world. They are trying to as Obama said, “Fundamentally Change the United States Forever” from what George Washington and the rest of the Founding Fathers set up over 200 years ago.
That is the reality that you will never hear in the faked controlled media. This is why many of these same certified on the record lying politicians will tell you to not listen to the counterpoints on the Internet. This is because on the Internet they can’t push their B.S. like they can in the controlled media.
“I still think the argument is weak and diversionary from obvious flaws of this trade fiasco bill.”
I agree with you on that...the matter should be addressed on its merits alone.
Because it only benefits countries and the crooks in congress by allowing other countries to dump products on our shores and our people loose jobs.
+1
Refusing to allow the American people to read the legislation FIRST before their so called [Representatives] vote on it only adds to their “distrust” in their government leaders!
That one sentence in the entire article is all you need to know as to why the American people are against any “fast-track’ powers being given to this juvenile socialist president!
Cruz just sunk his attempt to become the US President when he hitched his wagon up to the king RINO Ryan and his one world order ilk by supporting this piece of crap president!
A decade and a half ago, I filled my days writing speeches urging Congress to grant President George W. Bush fast-track trade authority. If memory serves, I wrote more speeches on that one subject than on any other. Obviously, I didn't earn my pay: Despite Republican majorities in both Houses, Congress balked.Frum shilling in left-wing rag The Atlantic, claims that Americans are turning against free trade -- but the turning is against Obama. And that doesn't fit the narrative.
There you have someone. "Free" trade deals permit American manufacturers to engage in environmental arbitrage. What this country forbids is permitted overseas. Aside from favorable wages, U.S. government regulators are frozen out of the manufacturing process taking business process back over a century, but with the advantage of modern equipment.
You nailed it.
I agree with you. I’m not suggesting one way or another whether “free trade” or “high tariffs” are better. I’m just pointing out that using a historical perspective from a period of time with very different economic conditions isn’t necessarily going to tell us very much.
Because they don’t understand basic economics. Trade is like the weather, it doesn’t care if you’re for it or against it, it’s going to happen.
When the proceeds of growth are not widely shared, the consensus in favor of pro-growth measures cracks.
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True, and the same can be said about the growing wealth of the government and those connected to it, but the government keeps growing.
Case in point ...
Let's say it takes a labor force of 2,500 workers to produce 500,000 cars (I'm just pulling these numbers out of thin air). Let's also suppose that Ford's labor costs are 2x higher than those of Toyota. Toyota will open a couple of plats in Southern U.S. states and employee 2,500 Americans to build 500,000 cars. Ford can't do that because they'd never compete with Toyota. So they produce 115,000 in the U.S. using 1,000 workers that are paid under their expensive union agreements, then produce another 385,000 cars in Mexico using cheap Mexican labor.
In effect, the United Auto Workers (UAW) is acting no differently than a nation operating under a "free trade" agreement with a Third World country. The labor union is perfectly fine exporting jobs to a Third World dump, as long as the 1,000 jobs here in the U.S. are protected. The next time the Ford-UAW labor agreement is signed, the UAW will be allowing even more jobs to be shipped overseas because they will only be representing the 500 remaining workers in a fading, dying union operating under an outdated, inefficient business model. The end result, of course, is the General Motors scenario.
Multiply that across an entire economy and you've now captured the U.S. economy in a nutshell. The whole thing comes to a sad end when the Ford plant in Mexico is exporting Ford cars to Asia, and nobody gives a sh!t about selling cars in the U.S. anymore.
Except in the USA 90% of manufacturing is done by non union labor. So the auto industry is the outlier not the norm.
But allowing products produced by virtual slaves in duty free is suicide.
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