GOP-controlled Hill panel backs state medical marijuana laws

Philly.com ^ | June 11, 2015

[ConservingFreedom]

That he does so is a testament to how kooky your position is.

You really wanna play that - you're ready to staunchly defend every single person who shares your position on this topic?

[DiogenesLamp]

Sure I do: when DiogenesLamp wants to do something, that's liberty ... but when somebody else wants to do something DiogenesLamp doesn't want them to do, that's license.

Wanting to do something is not the definition of Liberty. Pedophiles want to molest. That is not Liberty.

Liberty is doing those things that do not constitute a threat or damage to others. Drugs do not fit into the category of "Liberty", they are Libertine indulgences for which OTHER PEOPLE often have to pay.

I know a nest of pot heads, all getting government checks. Their desire to smoke dope makes the rest of us pay for their housing, food and medical care.

[ConservingFreedom]

Adult drug use is self-inflicted.

Really? Where did you get it then?

20 years ago when I smoked pot I bought it, just like the guy who puts a bullet through his own brain bought the gun and the bullet - are you suggesting that purchase makes his act not self-inflicted?

[ConservingFreedom]

Their desire to smoke dope makes the rest of us pay for their housing, food and medical care.

No, the government makes you do that.

[SpeakerToAnimals]

If you are referring to drug interdiction, we've been doing it for nearly 100 years but somehow I doubt you have the knowledge or intellect to actually discuss this issue on a level higher than "Weed is Legal? Far out!"

I was referring to Nixon declaring war on drugs. Whatever. As you could not refute my message, you attacked the messenger.

[DiogenesLamp]

The instant ad-hominem attacks on everyone give you away and reveal the emptiness of your arguments.

Or it gives away the fact that i've had these endless circles of arguments with dope-heads, and figure why not cut to the chase?

[DiogenesLamp]

Got better things to do now. Just keep doing your circle toke.

[ConservingFreedom]

The instant ad-hominem attacks on everyone give you away and reveal the emptiness of your arguments.

why not cut to the chase?

Getting quickly to your lack of sound arguments is certainly a time saver all around.

[all the best]

“The only thing dumber than doing drugs is trying to use the government to stop people from doing drugs.”

Yes. The war on drugs has only fueled the growth of government.

[Gene Eric]

>> Their desire to smoke dope makes the rest of us pay for ...

You could make the same argument for obesity, smoking, exercise, grocery lists, etc,; which is to say that you’re basing your position on the necessity of socialism.

[tacticalogic]

We might go back to growing it as a textile crop. It’s already proven it’s utility in the construction of straw men.

[ConservingFreedom]

The irony is priceless.

To: DiogenesLamp

Got better things to do now. Just keep doing your circle toke.

67 posted on 6/11/2015, 4:38:06 PM by DiogenesLamp

[ConservingFreedom]

You could make the same argument for obesity

DL's good friend Moochelle is doing just that.

[ConservingFreedom]

We might go back to growing it as a textile crop. It’s already proven it’s utility in the construction of straw men.

LOL! Nice.

[TigersEye]

Why not? It’s all you ever have.

[shotgun]

What’s wrong with this picture:

Scenario 1) I take a few puffs of weed from my bong while relaxing and getting ready to watch a football game on a Sunday afternoon, then a few weeks go by and I haven’t smoked any since that time, and I get called in for a UA, which turns up positive. So then my employer decides to fire me for violating the drug policy because THC is detected from those few bong hits.

Scenario 2) I snort a couple of lines of cocaine while out partying on Wednesday night and get called for a UA on Friday. Nothing is detected and I keep my job.

Scenario 3) I go out drinking with the guys on Wednesday and get pretty lit up to a point I pass out and when I finally wake up my head is splitting wide open from a massive hangover so I call in sick. But on Friday I get called in for a UA and Breathalyzer. Nothing is detected and I keep my job again.

Now everyone knows that alcohol consumption is legal, but can be addictive and destructive to personal life’s; cocaine is addictive and can ruin personal life’s; Weed is not addictive, but can ruin the life of the occasional user because of the failed drug test because the active ingredient that gets a person high for a few hours can be detected up 30 days from the time of consumption.

[ConservingFreedom]

In the end, ad hominems are all any Drug Warrior ever has.

[SoFloFreeper]

I agree with the premise...but why do we need a FEDERAL law that “promises” states their rights????

Doesn’t that imply that the FEDERAL government is ALLOWING the states to have their own laws?

[ConservingFreedom]

Pee testing is the real 'gateway.'

[SoFloFreeper]

Doesn’t this seem to be the antithesis of federalism?

Think about it: the FEDERAL government is “allowing” the states to make their own laws...just as if the federal government has that power....

I dunno.

I agree that states ought to be free to decide for their own citizens if marijuana can be used (although I wonder if the FDA will now be empowered to get into states laws)...but I don’t know if this process is really federalism as the founders intended it.

I can imagine Thomas Jefferson reacting to this kind of a law this way: “Oh, really? Congress is going to grant my state of Virginia a right it already possesses?”