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Ron Paul: Will Victims, Suspects Of Deadly Waco Biker Rally Receive Justice?
Truth in Media ^ | June 9, 2015 | Ron Paul

Posted on 06/11/2015 11:18:51 AM PDT by Prolixus

Circumstances surrounding the deadly Waco biker rally remain unclear, and local police are shielding details of the incident from the public.

“This just builds up more suspicion on our government,” Ron Paul said during his latest Liberty Report.

The three-time presidential candidate and former Texas Representative Paul raised concerns about the ever-growing number of questions about the biker rally shooting, including why the Federal Bureau of Investigation was involved, what evidence the Waco Police Department gathered from the incident, how the shooting got started, the number of weapons on the scene, and who shot whom.

Nearly 1,000 bikers rallied in Waco this past weekend in support of the biker rally shooting victims—nine individuals died as a result of gunshot wounds—and the 143 bikers who remain behind bars without charge.

The Waco Police Department’s decision not to release any information about the incident or evidence collected from the scene harkened to the redacted 28 pages of the 9/11 Joint Congressional Inquiry report, Paul said.

“This seems like wholesale injustice,” Paul said. “My suspicion is they have a lot of evidence.” Like Truth In Media on Facebook

Paul also addressed the issue of proportionality in the way police respond to public disturbances. Proportionality, as it is considered in just war theory, “should be considered here,” he said.

“There is disturbance of peaceful operations and there’s a responsibility to check into it. But to end up with a bunch of people getting killed, and then all of a sudden arresting all of these people? They could have taken their names and addresses down or something like that. They could probably review a camera pretty quickly, say, within an hour or two they will decide who might have been more involved.”

Another recent incident exemplifying the need for proportionality also comes out of Texas. Video shows aggressive police response at a disturbance call to a pool party in McKinney had “no proportionality that we saw,” Paul said. He noted, “We would get a little rowdy as kids but we never dealt with that.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: bikers; criminaltrespass; donutwatch; late2theparty; paulnut; ronpaul; thugculture; waco
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The three-time presidential candidate and former Texas Representative Paul raised concerns about the ever-growing number of questions about the biker rally shooting, including why the Federal Bureau of Investigation was involved, what evidence the Waco Police Department gathered from the incident, how the shooting got started, the number of weapons on the scene, and who shot whom.

Video: Are Waco Bikers Getting Justice?

1 posted on 06/11/2015 11:18:51 AM PDT by Prolixus
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To: Prolixus

Paging Gov. Abbott.. WTF? It’s time for the Governor to step in and exert pressure on Waco officials. ‘Guilty until proven innocent’ is an UNLAWFUL practice! Excessive bail, stonewalling and obstruction of public release of information is ludicrous here. This reminds me of the ETERNAL DELAY of the final report on Bergdahl. WTF is it? It’s time for Abbott to make demands.


2 posted on 06/11/2015 11:28:59 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Not only that but you have to assume many, if not most of them acted in self-defense.


3 posted on 06/11/2015 11:36:40 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: Prolixus; don-o

ping.


4 posted on 06/11/2015 11:39:55 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: momtothree
Day 26

Waco: Biker Shooting and Roundup: At this point, what difference does it make?

5 posted on 06/11/2015 11:45:15 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Prolixus

6 posted on 06/11/2015 11:47:57 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Sure laid out wrong for that.

Looks like the blue haze is going for some kind of vicarious criminal status like in a joint bank robbery. Except who planned this altercation or any other crime that was a proximate cause? It just won’t wash. Nothing on the statutes forbids an assembly like this.

Waco is lucky if it only gets laughed out of the court and they are stung no worse.


7 posted on 06/11/2015 11:59:23 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“Nothing on the statutes forbids an assembly like this.”

Well, actually, there is this:

“Texas Penal Code § 71.02. Engaging in Organized Criminal Activity

(a) A person commits an offense if, with the intent to establish, maintain, or participate in a combination or in the profits of a combination or as a member of a criminal street gang, the person commits or conspires to commit one or more of the following:

(1) murder, capital murder, arson, aggravated robbery, robbery, burglary, theft, aggravated kidnapping, kidnapping, aggravated assault, aggravated sexual assault, sexual assault, continuous sexual abuse of young child or children, solicitation of a minor, forgery, deadly conduct, assault punishable as a Class A misdemeanor, burglary of a motor vehicle, or unauthorized use of a motor vehicle;”

https://www.nationalgangcenter.gov/Legislation/Texas

So if the “brawl” started as any kind of dispute between rival criminal gangs over territory or profits, a case could be made that anyone who participated in it ran afoul of this statute.


8 posted on 06/11/2015 12:46:01 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

So the Christian MC and Boozefighters, oh, and Marine MC and Vet MC were knowing accomplices to crime? More and more it appears they were witnesses to crime and that is why they were arrested. Once they have their witness “straight” they can probably be let go.


9 posted on 06/11/2015 12:52:48 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute

“So the Christian MC and Boozefighters, oh, and Marine MC and Vet MC were knowing accomplices to crime?”

If they participated in a brawl between criminal gangs over territory or profit, then yes, it would appear they were.


10 posted on 06/11/2015 12:57:45 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Where is there evidence of conspiracy other than law enforcement “planned” to be in the area while carrying high powered rifles?


11 posted on 06/11/2015 1:00:21 PM PDT by Prolixus (Why does Waco make me think of Benghazi?)
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To: Prolixus

Well, let’s see, there was this big meeting organized and run by members of criminal gangs right before the incident...

but other than that, yeah I guess there is no evidence of conspiracy.


12 posted on 06/11/2015 1:15:41 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Prolixus

Depends on how many $10M law suits there are against the city, county, WPD, MCSD, and individual suits. At this point, law suits are the only thing that is going to wake the Waco taxpayers up.


13 posted on 06/11/2015 1:24:47 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Boogieman

Participated by being present? Good thinking! President Cruz can just arrest every libtard present at the DNC! And you say there is legal precedent for it. Thanks!


14 posted on 06/11/2015 1:25:24 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Boogieman

How is that evidence of conspiracy (i.e., plan as a group to commit a felony)?


15 posted on 06/11/2015 1:26:03 PM PDT by Prolixus (Why does Waco make me think of Benghazi?)
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To: Boogieman

The racketeering laws have morphed into something well beyond original intent. It should be a matter of interest that no other charges have been placed and we are coming up on a month.

Don’t most counties have a Grand Jury formed and subject to call?

Of course when we learned that weapons had been sent to the Feds for testing, any doubts about this thing being walked as slowly as possible were removed.


16 posted on 06/11/2015 1:29:04 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Prolixus

It’s as much evidence as what you offered regarding the cops.


17 posted on 06/11/2015 1:31:13 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

We know law enforcement planned to be there and they came prepared for action with their high powered rifles.


18 posted on 06/11/2015 1:33:27 PM PDT by Prolixus (Why does Waco make me think of Benghazi?)
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To: Boogieman

Don’t see that applying to anyone there who was not a Cossack or a Bandido.

Waco is going to pay out a lot of money.


19 posted on 06/11/2015 1:38:11 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Prolixus

Right, which isn’t really any kind of solid evidence of a criminal conspiracy. If you accept that level of evidence for the cops’ intentions, then you have to accept the same type of evidence for the bikers’ intentions.


20 posted on 06/11/2015 1:38:42 PM PDT by Boogieman
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