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So if God allows some baby to be born and any of this (a, b, c or d - listed above by Robertson) happens and God knows the end from the beginning then God wanted that baby to grow up to do these things?

Robertson's answer only creates more of a dilemma since if God knows the end from the beginning and a, b, c or d(listed by Robertson above) happens after the baby grows up then God is responsible, but if the baby dies then God allowed the baby to die because a, b, c or d could have happened if the baby had been born and grown up.

It is like in the Book of Job: Satan said that God had created a hedge around Job and God did not deny this. Satan wanted God to attack Job Himself but God did not say He would do this, only that He would let Satan attack Job but would not let him take Job's life - thus God lowered the hedge so that Satan could get to Job within the parameters that God had set for Satan.

Would that (in the Book of Job) be similar to God personally unlocking a jail cell and letting some mad man go rampant knowing ahead of time (due to His Omniscience) that this mad man will attack people?

1 posted on 06/10/2015 12:41:49 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; All

Does Roberson still use the miracle protein milkshake and leg press 2,000 pounds?


2 posted on 06/10/2015 12:42:24 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Oh dear God.

Last week you posted several threads with thousands of questions about the Duggars Salvation.

Now are you back with several thousand questions about old Pat Robertson?


3 posted on 06/10/2015 12:44:42 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I’m entertained by people who think they are favored by God or because they believe or participate in some religious group that nothing bad should ever happen to them. Even more entertaining is someone looking to a television personality for answers.


4 posted on 06/10/2015 12:46:02 PM PDT by rey
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

People still actually watch this maroon?


5 posted on 06/10/2015 12:46:13 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I’m sure the good Reverend means well, but maybe it’s time to retire.

There’s nothing wrong with admitting that you don’t know why God allows this or that, or will not allow something. Some questions are simply unanswerable - at least in this lifetime.


8 posted on 06/10/2015 12:52:52 PM PDT by Paulie (America without Christianity is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

People wonder when did the decline of Christianity in America began.

The answer hit me just a couple of days ago. It was when the nation embraced TV “preachers” like this back in the 80s that turned it into a joke that was easy to target.

Too bad Billy Graham isnt young enough to take it back from these guys.


9 posted on 06/10/2015 12:55:01 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Either this is inaccurate, or Pat is an idiot. I doubt it is accurate.


10 posted on 06/10/2015 12:55:01 PM PDT by getitright (If you call this HOPE, can we give despair a shot?)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

We must be getting close to an election...

MSM is sticking a mike in Pat’s face.

MSM has a motto, milk every dime out of everyone running for office.

If someone has no money for ads, they do not get covered.


11 posted on 06/10/2015 12:56:45 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (It is not heaven, it is Iowa. Everyone gets a "Corn Check")
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

If God’s purpose was to prevent another Hitler, why didn’t He just kill the first Hitler when he was a child?


16 posted on 06/10/2015 1:03:21 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (A free society canÂ’t let the parameters of its speech be set by murderous extremists.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

The answer he should have given should have been a quotation from Jesus and then a quotation from Ecclesiates.


Now there were some present at that time who told Jesus about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mixed with their sacrifices. Jesus answered, “Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans because they suffered this way? I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish. Or those eighteen who died when the tower in Siloam fell on them—do you think they were more guilty than all the others living in Jerusalem? I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.”


I have seen something else under the sun: The race is not to the swift or the battle to the strong, nor does food come to the wise or wealth to the brilliant or favor to the learned; but time and chance happen to them all. Moreover, no man knows when his hour will come: As fish are caught in a cruel net, or birds are taken in a snare, so men are trapped by evil times that fall unexpectedly upon them.


In other words, sometimes things just happen and there isn’t any spiritual judgment or divine retribution involved. Since pain and death are in this world, we will all be affected by them at some point.


20 posted on 06/10/2015 1:05:22 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Sign up for my new release e-mail and get my first novel for free)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Robertson has always been somewhat of a dufus!


23 posted on 06/10/2015 1:08:56 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

So then how come Hitler got a pass?


29 posted on 06/10/2015 1:23:46 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

The irony in all this, I’d bet, is that a bunch of liberals will be OUTRAGED at Robertson’s insensitive comments about poor dead babies...as if they care about dead babies.


31 posted on 06/10/2015 1:31:20 PM PDT by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

He is pretty stupid.


45 posted on 06/10/2015 2:32:45 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Be sure brain is running before throwing mouth into gear.


47 posted on 06/10/2015 2:52:38 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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