Posted on 06/04/2015 6:08:23 AM PDT by Enlightened1
House conservatives are hinting at support for a temporary extension of Obama-Care subsidies if the Supreme Court cripples the law, even as they set up a working group to develop their own plan.
The high court is set to rule later this month in the case of King v. Burwell, which could invalidate subsidies for millions of people in at least 34 states using the federally run marketplace. Republicans say they need to be ready to address people losing their coverage, but have yet to coalesce around a plan.
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Now tell me how the GOP is going to save our Republic when they are for Socialism?
Anyone who dreams the GOP is not behind RomneyCARE,
and will do other than to keep it in place,
with themselves no longer EXEMPT,
....... is apparently a fool’s ‘fool’.
An outrage.
Kill the damned thing.
II have said all along the GOP has been in bed with the democrats on the passage of Obamacare since day one, they aided the democrats in passing the bill as surely as if they had voted for the bill.
"Thank you sir, may I have another!"
Someone needs to alert the masses that they WILL be denied care if the Government decides their lives aren’t worth the cost of the care. This needs to be shouted from the rooftops! Americans are still under the delusion that they will get all the health care they need when the Government is in charge.
relax...what could go wrong?
The Supreme Court isn’t gong to “cripple” it. It was a screwed up mess at conception. The worst the court can do to it is make them take it for what it is.
Members of the conservative House Freedom Caucus told The Hill they are setting up a group of four or five lawmakers, led by Rep. John Fleming (R-La.). The lawmakers will develop a plan meant to influence the main House working group led by Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) and two other panel chairmen, which Fleming complained is meeting in “secret.”
While working on their own ideas, Freedom Caucus members are also open to something like Sen. Ron Johnson’s (R-Wis.) idea to temporarily extend subsidies.
Johnson’s plan would extend ObamaCare subsidies through August 2017, when he hopes there will be a Republican president, while also repealing the law’s individual and employer mandates.
His bill has 31 Republican co-sponsors in the Senate, including Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.). It has not received the same welcome in the House, though; Ryan’s working group is still publicly undecided on the question, and House Budget Committee Chairman Tom Price (R-Ga.) came out in opposition to the idea last month.
The Freedom Caucus debated Johnson’s plan for half an hour at a meeting Monday night.
“I think that I could only support it if it had a definite expiration at the end of 2016, or maybe in the first half of 2017,” Fleming said.
Other members said they were originally skeptical when told of the idea to extend ObamaCare subsidies but warmed to it once they learned Johnson’s plan would also repeal the individual and employer mandates, which they say gives people more freedom.
“When it was first presented to me, the person from the press that presented it to me said [Johnson] just wanted to extend the subsidies, and if that were the only case, no way would I support that,” said Rep. Matt Salmon (R-Ariz.). However, Salmon noted the plan also repeals the mandates and said, “Anything that would get rid of fundamental parts of ObamaCare will ultimately lead to its demise.”
The American Academy of Actuaries warned last week that removing the mandates could cause premiums to skyrocket, because sicker people would be more likely to be insured.
“I think the initial headlines of Sen. Johnson’s bill gave people a little caution,” said Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.). “However, when you look at the fact that the employer and individual mandates go away, what does that do? And so I think it’s trying to take his concept and say, ‘Alright what is the end of result of that?’ We debated that for about 30 minutes.”
Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.) called it a “bad idea to continue the subsides, especially for the length of time that Senator Johnson is suggesting.”
“There may have to be some transition period,” he added. “But the transition period that people are talking about is more like within the year rather than three years.”
The Freedom Caucus working group has not met yet. Fleming, lamenting that the House’s primary planners are “kind of a secret group,” said there is “no reason why we shouldn’t be working on our ideas.
Groups meeting in secret??
Anything to do with Lyin’ Paul Ryan should be thrown out, immediately.
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My name is Gruber of ObamaCare fame. Yes. What could possibly go wrong?
why does everyone here think that the answer is to just “turn it off?” Doesn’t work that way. Insurance companies will have to rewrite everything. I asked someone if they can just go back to Jan 1, 2014 with paperwork and then fix what broke. I was told, they could only wish it was that easy.
Too many parts interwoven into everything. They need a new plan moving forward as well as what the interim would look like.
why does everyone here think that the answer is to just “turn it off?” Doesn’t work that way. Insurance companies will have to rewrite everything. I asked someone if they can just go back to Jan 1, 2014 with paperwork and then fix what broke. I was told, they could only wish it was that easy.
Too many parts interwoven into everything. They need a new plan moving forward as well as what the interim would look like.
Ron Johnson. Again.
It’s not turn off. It’s go back. It was A LOT cheaper.
What is in place is 100% Certified Socialist scam.
The average price of a family of 4 on ObamaCare has sky rocketed $2500 in the first year alone.
The lies that was pushed it would be not much different than your car insurance premiums.
Of course they are. Look at the stock prices of health insurers to see why. Nobody in DC wants to undo a new way to make cronies richer.
So, you saying you trust the likes of Lyin’ Ryan and Ron Johnson to design the “plan moving forward”?
The “parts interwoven into everything” are the payoffs to politicians - via donations from insurance/medical industry affiliates and lobbyists who’re benefitting - the ONLY ones benefitting - from 0bombaCare.
They shouldn’t do that, it weakens their ability to repeal. They should tie everything together.
Any registered Republican who can’t read the writing on the wall is delusional. You voted for this???
Hannity played a tape, yesterday, of all of the 0bomaCare lies, told by the Liar in Chief, himself. Quite damning...
- Every family will save $2,500.00/year
- If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.
- Some talk show hosts are claiming there’ll be bureaucratic groups determining if older folks will receive specific healthcare.
- Some conservatives are claiming that, under my plan, illegal immigrants will be able to receive healthcare under ACA.
That tape needs to be played over and over...to each and every one of the “conservative” Reps who are trying to extend/offer life support to this debacle.
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