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Secret Deal Could Contain a Myriad of Gun Restrictions, Ammo Bans!
Gun Owners of America ^ | 07 May 2015

Posted on 05/23/2015 11:44:20 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal

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To: gunsequalfreedom

The thing that is so depressing is that Ted Cruz is going to vote for it. Mr. GG2 and I were like WTF? The Cruz comes out with this BS explanation for voting for cloture. WE are still like WTF?


41 posted on 05/24/2015 8:32:36 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: jonrick46

Republicans have lost the Senate to the uniparty.


42 posted on 05/24/2015 8:33:46 AM PDT by duffee (Dump the Chairman of the Mississippi Republican Party, joe nosef.)
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To: jonrick46

The Republicans are in danger of losing the Senate.

Worse than that.

Our nation teeters an event away from total anarchy&chaos.


43 posted on 05/24/2015 8:36:08 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (SEMPER FI!! - Monthly Donors Rock!!)
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To: exnavy

yep. Just like hate crime legislation, feminist courts and now illegals, TPP is meant to further the reach of judges in the assassination by courts system.

The case of the Mountain Man sued by an illegal maritime court on Youtube is what it is.

TPP will use maritime courts of the sea outside the Constitutional restrictions.

This is a fiction.


44 posted on 05/24/2015 8:58:59 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall no)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Then Cruz is off the list for POTUS.


45 posted on 05/24/2015 9:38:33 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: RC one

They don’t care about it being an election year on this issue. They know conservatives in GOP can be kicked in the teeth and they will still vote GOP. They count on conservatives being chumps.


46 posted on 05/24/2015 9:42:54 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: astroaddict

Nice of you to sidestep the issue. You are very skilled in deceptive argument. The issue is the secrecy and the flagrant disregard for transparency and open government. It is so bad in this situation members of both parties have complained about it. On principle, when I see a bill can’t be shared in advance with the American people I default to it being a bad bill. Convince me otherwise.


47 posted on 05/24/2015 9:49:54 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Mariner

Trade deficits and surpluses are extremely overrated.

Protectionist use the “trade deficit” as a tool hammering free trade, but they can’t explain the damage that is done by having one.

Our inflation-adjusted exports to Canada and Mexico have TRIPLED since NAFTA.

If anything, trade deficits are actually a good sign of strong consumer buying power and standard of living. It’s a sign of economic health. There are third world countries all over the world that are running trade surpluses. Lots of good it is doing for them.


48 posted on 05/24/2015 9:51:19 AM PDT by astroaddict
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To: astroaddict

Why the secrecy?


49 posted on 05/24/2015 9:51:56 AM PDT by OKSooner (Chamberlain at least loved his country, please don't insult his memory by comparing him to 0.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Good post. You nailed it on disinformation also being present to support it. Aristofan is a perfect plant of disinformation.


50 posted on 05/24/2015 9:52:36 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Zathras

Great post!


51 posted on 05/24/2015 9:53:17 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal
Government cannot contract away your rights.
Period.
52 posted on 05/24/2015 9:54:11 AM PDT by djf (OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
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To: astroaddict

If it’s supposedly so good for us and a conservative policy, why is the damned thing secret?


53 posted on 05/24/2015 9:56:14 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: astroaddict

You probably should go back and take a refresher course in Disinformation 101. Your attempt obviously did not work.


54 posted on 05/24/2015 9:58:43 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: astroaddict
Apparently 90% of this forum were Perot voters who bought into his horse-shit. Nearly every one of his predictions about the effect of NAFTA on the economy turned out to be dead wrong, yet people still soak this garbage up.

Perot was dead on right. You can't seriously claim that Manufacturing in this country has increased since NAFTA.

NAFTA has DECIMATED manufacturing in this country. The only detail about NAFTA that Perot got wrong was that Mexico was merely a rest stop on the way to shipping tens of thousands of manufacturing jobs to China.

The rest of your post is frankly, bullshit. You don't know what's in the deal because none of us can see it.

55 posted on 05/24/2015 10:00:11 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: jsanders2001

It is not stuffed envelopes. It is FBI files, as in Senator do you really want your wife to know about that affair or the IRS to know about that side business.


56 posted on 05/24/2015 10:01:13 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: astroaddict

The Supreme Court has nothing to do with it. Quit spewing disinformation. The question is not if it is legal. The question is whether it is a good deal or not. You are so full of BS you really need to go back to lurking.


57 posted on 05/24/2015 10:05:50 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

Thanks Kentucky. You should have elected someone who isn’t blackmailable.


58 posted on 05/24/2015 10:25:16 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Civil rights are for civilized people.)
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To: SZonian

It’s NOT secret. Stop repeating misinformation/propaganda! The TPA lifts any and all secrecy from it. There will be no secret deal. Why is this so confusing?


59 posted on 05/24/2015 10:31:15 AM PDT by astroaddict
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To: OKSooner

There’s nothing secret about it. This TPA lifts any secrecy surrounding the negotiations. When the deal is negotiated, it will be public and put to an up and down vote. You are repeating propaganda.


60 posted on 05/24/2015 10:31:15 AM PDT by astroaddict
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