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In Waco carnage, a message to America
CNN ^ | May 18, 2015 | Errol Louis, CNN Political Commentator

Posted on 05/18/2015 12:20:31 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

)—Even while the horrific details from the fatal gang battle in Waco, Texas, filter in, it's not too soon to ask: Is this who and what we have become as a nation? A place where a shootout between five heavily armed criminal gangs can unfold at a restaurant, in full view of law enforcement, leaving nine dead, 18 hospitalized and some 170 people arrested?

Law enforcement officers knew at least a week in advance that a horde of bikers was converging on the Twin Peaks restaurant, where the massacre took place, and stationed a dozen local and state officers on the scene -- including members of a SWAT team.

But that didn't stop the gangsters from clashing with knives, clubs, and guns. Police say the bikers fired at each other, and eventually at the officers who tried to stop the carnage.

Are Americans now so lawless that presence of law enforcement doesn't deter gunplay?

Innocent patrons and restaurant staffers hid inside a freezer, KWTX reported. It's a minor miracle that no cops, restaurant employees or diners were hurt or killed.

Twin Peaks held regular events called "bike nights." Concerned about the possibility of violence, Waco police had asked Twin Peaks to try to keep biker gangs away....

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; secondamendment; shootings; texas; twinpeaks; waco
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To: BenLurkin

While we’re told the bikers “opened fire on police”, oddly, none of those injured were cops.


101 posted on 05/18/2015 2:02:07 PM PDT by Fido969
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To: JoeProBono

I’ll have to check it out on NetFlix...thanks.


102 posted on 05/18/2015 2:02:39 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: JoeProBono

I LOVE IT!!!


103 posted on 05/18/2015 2:06:23 PM PDT by momtothree
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To: bgill
Twin Peaks corporate revokes franchise agreement with Waco Twin Peaks
104 posted on 05/18/2015 2:06:24 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wonder how police thought the manager was going to discourage five biker gangs from patronizing his restaurant? Besides, are we supposed to discriminate against people because of their lifestyle? What if police heard there was going to be trouble between GLAAD, CAIR the NAACP and NAMBLA?


105 posted on 05/18/2015 2:16:03 PM PDT by Nachoman (My guns and my ammo, they comfort me.)
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To: skinndogNN
For the past 30 years, I’ve heard nothing but the narrative that people who ride cycles are lawyers, doctors, businessmen ect. Obviously, biker gangs still exist.

I'm a member of a biker gang. We rove north Texas looking for veteran's funerals we can stand as honor guards for to show our support for them and their families.

Thankfully, the other kind of biker is a tiny subset of bikers in general.

106 posted on 05/18/2015 2:26:48 PM PDT by zeugma (Are there more nearby spiders than the sun is big?)
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To: Nachoman

“I wonder how police thought the manager was going to discourage five biker gangs from patronizing his restaurant? “

A sign “no colors or leather vests”.
Restaurants have dress codes and its well established law.


107 posted on 05/18/2015 2:49:57 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: zeugma
I'm a member of a biker gang.

Sounds like you're a member of a motorcycle club. A group of people with common interests who happen to ride motorcycles. But then, that's just my opinion.

108 posted on 05/18/2015 2:51:56 PM PDT by Dartman (Canadian, eh. And proud of it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bikers lives matter.


109 posted on 05/18/2015 2:53:17 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: School of Rational Thought

“Bikers lives matter.”

Unless they are in a well recognized criminal gang. Then they really don’t.


110 posted on 05/18/2015 2:54:52 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino


111 posted on 05/18/2015 2:56:26 PM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: BuffaloJack
Are Americans now so lawless that presence of law enforcement doesn’t deter gunplay

They have been watching blacks riot then blame the cops for the riots. Lessons are being learned.

112 posted on 05/18/2015 2:57:23 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: TexasCajun

Bikers need safe zones.


113 posted on 05/18/2015 2:58:42 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Are Americans now so lawless that presence of law enforcement doesn’t deter gunplay?”

He might to LOOK IN A MIRROR if he’s having trouble understanding why people don’t respect the pigs (as he, no doubt, sees them) anymore.


114 posted on 05/18/2015 3:01:13 PM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'about' page))
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To: School of Rational Thought

“Bikers lives matter.”

In fact, I had an interesting thought today. If communities wanted to rid themselves of outlaw MC organized crime gangs,,,, Waco is a nice opportunity.

Cops find one or two patchholders shot dead in a ditch somewhere, clearly they were shot while riding. It would follow naturally look like it must have been part of some biker war. They themselves might even assume it.
Nice opportunity to reenact the final scene of Easy Rider.

That’s if a community felt threatened.


115 posted on 05/18/2015 3:02:08 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: BuffaloJack
Are Americans now so lawless that presence of law enforcement doesn’t deter gunplay?

Maybe the gangs didn't fire any weapons...

116 posted on 05/18/2015 3:06:10 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Errol dear, your own city is the murder capital of the world....but now that a bunch of white guys have a shootup its big news?.....I thought black lives mattered?....apparently they don’t....


119 posted on 05/18/2015 4:55:39 PM PDT by cherry
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To: TexasCajun

“This is the first Biker Gang incident I’ve heard about in years, while this type of carnage happens every weekend in Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, New Orleans, Philadelphia.”

Come to Myrtle Beach, South Carolina during “Black Bike Week” (Memorial Day Weekend) and you’ll see murders and shootings. It doesn’t make the national press because it doesn’t fit the narrative.

http://conservative-headlines.com/2014/05/black-bike-weekend-at-myrtle-beach-explodes-into-violence-again-4-shot-3-dead/

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/05/26/a-frustrated-myrtle-beach-major-responds-to-the-bloodshed-from-black-bike-week-ten-people-shot-three-killed/

http://www.fitsnews.com/2011/05/31/black-bike-week-is-violent/

http://kulturekritic.com/2014/05/news/700k-people-sign-petition-to-end-violent-black-bike-week-in-myrtle-beach/


120 posted on 05/18/2015 5:05:57 PM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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