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Markets More: HSBC Bearish HSBC WARNS: The world economy faces a 'titanic problem'
Business Insider ^ | 5/13/2015 | Stephen King

Posted on 05/14/2015 6:15:18 AM PDT by Freedom56v2

HSBC chief economist Stephen King is already thinking about the next recession.

In a note to clients Wednesday, he warns: "The world economy is like an ocean liner without lifeboats. If another recession hits, it could be a truly titanic struggle for policymakers."

Here's King (emphasis added):

Whereas previous recoveries have enabled monetary and fiscal policymakers to replenish their ammunition, this recovery — both in the US and elsewhere — has been distinguished by a persistent munitions shortage. This is a major problem. In all recessions since the 1970s, the US Fed funds rate has fallen by a minimum of 5 percentage points. That kind of traditional stimulus is now completely ruled out.

King notes that this far into the recovery, there's a lack of "traditional policy ammunition." For instance, Treasury yields have not risen, the budget deficit is not falling, and welfare payments are still on the rise.

As for what might trigger the next recession, King highlighted four things:

snip.... also doesn't help that worker productivity is low). In turn, households and businesses will lose confidence in the economy, and the "equity bubble" will burst with collapsing stock prices.

Nonbank financial systems such as insurance companies and pension funds will increasingly not be able to meet future obligations. This will cause a huge demand for liquid assets, forcing people to rush to sell despite no matching demand, triggering a recession.

Forces beyond the Federal Reserve's control, including the possibility that China's economy and its currency could collapse. Weak commodity prices could also cause collapses in several emerging markets, as could continued strength in the US dollar. The Fed could cause the next recession....

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: depression; economiccollapse; economy; recession
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Grim....
1 posted on 05/14/2015 6:15:18 AM PDT by Freedom56v2
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To: bushwon

Geez, who woulda thunk that after spending money that you did not have to begin with and creating a climate in which public servant unions now resemble something out of “On the Waterfront”, that something like that could very easily happen?


2 posted on 05/14/2015 6:19:19 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("Keeping your stick down used to be a commandment, but not anymore" Harry Sinden, 1988)
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To: bushwon

When Stephen King is the chief economist, you know you’re in trouble!


3 posted on 05/14/2015 6:20:03 AM PDT by proxy_user
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To: bushwon
Whereas previous recoveries have enabled monetary and fiscal policymakers to replenish their ammunition, this recovery — both in the US and elsewhere — has been distinguished by a persistent munitions shortage. This is a major problem. In all recessions since the 1970s, the US Fed funds rate has fallen by a minimum of 5 percentage points. That kind of traditional stimulus is now completely ruled out.

There are reasons why this may be true.

During the worst recession in my lifetime, Obama decided to impose the largest tax hike in American history (Obamacare). He also pushed very unwise spending practices (rewarding unions, green energy etc., increase in public debt).

Much of the blame should reside in the White House.

4 posted on 05/14/2015 6:22:16 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: proxy_user

Ha! That’s exactly what I was thinking.


5 posted on 05/14/2015 6:23:13 AM PDT by Frapster (Build the America you want in your home... and keep looking up.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

This White House, and the last one too, sadly......


6 posted on 05/14/2015 6:23:21 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
This White House, and the last one too, sadly......

Yes.

7 posted on 05/14/2015 6:24:53 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: proxy_user

> In a note to clients Wednesday, he warns: “The world economy is like an ocean liner without lifeboats. If another recession hits, it could be a truly titanic struggle for policymakers.”

“If” another recession hits? We ARE in a recession right now! Brought on by The King


8 posted on 05/14/2015 6:26:27 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: proxy_user
When Stephen King is the chief economist, you know you’re in trouble!

Now that's funny right there.

9 posted on 05/14/2015 6:26:47 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: proxy_user

Sadly, I wish it was novelist Stephen King—then the story would be fiction....


10 posted on 05/14/2015 6:28:20 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Make 'em squeal!)
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To: bushwon
If another recession hits...

Another?
We have been in a recession, a depression actually, for the last 6 years, by design.

11 posted on 05/14/2015 6:30:13 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: bushwon

Gee. Why wouldn’t an economy built on immense borrowing and dollar printing accumulates unsustainable debt and unfunded liabilities, and is led by an Administration that publishes restrictive anti business fiats daily, runs an anti carbon energy crusade and abhors productive capitalism not have a rosy future?


12 posted on 05/14/2015 6:30:32 AM PDT by allendale
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To: The_Media_never_lie

This is the sad, and still pertinent as people still blame Bush for this economy. And Bush is to blame - but for the liberal things he went along with, not anything conservative that he promoted (his tax cuts). And the irony? Then nation has voted even MORE leftward.


13 posted on 05/14/2015 6:31:11 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: bushwon

Harry Dent—love him or hate him!—warned that the period from 2016 to 2018 is at risk of a general world war. It will take a lot of cooler heads prevailing to prevent that from coming to pass.


14 posted on 05/14/2015 6:31:17 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: jsanders2001

We never left the previous one, falsified numbers are a piss poor substitute for a recovery!


15 posted on 05/14/2015 6:31:33 AM PDT by nomad
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To: bushwon

Golly, another horror story from Stephen King.


16 posted on 05/14/2015 6:42:05 AM PDT by immadashell (The inmates are running the asylum.)
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To: bushwon

In its shortsighted effort to avoid some financial pain to normalize the economy, the Fed’s prolonged manipulation and levitation may instead contribute to a long term economic calamity.


17 posted on 05/14/2015 6:58:46 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Re the public debt, if interest rates do rise the cost of our debt service could easily double from the artificially low rates imposed by the Fed. That could be a real problem when combined with our already massive level of unfunded liabilities (a ‘mere’ $96 TRILLION).


18 posted on 05/14/2015 7:02:29 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: nomad

Yep, they’re cookin’ the books big time.


19 posted on 05/14/2015 7:03:04 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: allendale

+1

Good post.


20 posted on 05/14/2015 7:03:59 AM PDT by Starboard
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