Putin justifies Soviet-Nazi pact

EU Observer ^ | 11 May 2015 09:29 | Eric Maurice

[Olog-hai]

Russian president Vladimir Putin over the weekend celebrated the 70^th anniversary of the Soviet defeat of Nazi Germany with a military parade on Red Square and a series of smaller events.

But while standing next to German chancellor Angela Merkel, he appeared to justify the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact which the Soviet Union signed with the Nazi regime in 1939.

“This pact made sense in terms of guaranteeing the Soviet Union’s security,” he said on Sunday (10 May).

Putin noted that Moscow, in the 1930s, had tried to stop Nazi Germany, but felt isolated after Germany, France, and the UK signed the 1938 Munich agreement allowing Hitler to annex parts of Czechoslovakia. …

[Olog-hai]

Meanwhile when Adolf did attack the USSR, Uncle Josef was caught completely off guard and needed the USA’s help very desperately.

[lodi90]

This is why WW2 is still referred to as the 1941-45 Great Patriotic War in Russia. Russians are just fine with the fact they fed the Nazi war machine and dismembered Poland in concert with Hitler. Should it be any surprise they don’t have a problem doing the same to Ukraine?

[Olog-hai]

That’s certainly contradictory. Communists are supposed to be internationalist and not nationalist (i.e. “patriotic”). Gotta love doublethink.

[ETL]

"Putin said Stalin deserves statues in his honor"

http://en.ria.ru/russia/20131219/185734707/Putin-Says-Stalin-No-Worse-Than-Cunning-Oliver-Cromwell.html
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[WhiskeyX]

“Putin noted that Moscow, in the 1930s, had tried to stop Nazi Germany, but felt isolated after Germany, France, and the UK signed the 1938 Munich agreement allowing Hitler to annex parts of Czechoslovakia.”

The Soviet Union helped Germany to covertly use the Soviet Union as a military training ground for decades to violate the World War One Armistice Agreement, and then Putin lies about it.

[Olog-hai]

Reading Stalin’s own backstory, the most the man who single-handedly increased slavery to the state in the world deserves is a pauper’s grave and to be a footnote in history.

[ETL]

KGB Putin thinks the COLLAPSE of the Soviet communist empire was the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe' of the 20th century

"the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the [20th] century" -Russian leader Vladimir Putin on the collapse of the Soviet Union...
"World democratic opinion has yet to realize the alarming implications of President Vladimir Putin's State of the Union speech on April 25, 2005, in which he said that the collapse of the Soviet Union represented the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century.'
http://www.hoover.org/research/putins-russia-stalin-lite
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"'The Black Book of Communism,'; a scholarly accounting of communism’s crimes, counts about 94 million murdered by the supposed champions of the common man (20 million for the Soviets alone), and some say that number is too low."

Forgetting the Evils of Communism: The amnesia bites a little deeper
By Jonah Goldberg, August 2008:
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZmY0MjI1MDgyYjg1M2UwNDMzMTk2Mjk5YTk0ZTdlMWE=

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Photos from Victory Day 2008...

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From a 2007 article titled "Putin's Russia"...

"KGB influence 'soars under Putin,' " blared the headline of a BBC online article for December 13, 2006. The following day, a similar headline echoed a similarly alarming story at the website of Der Spiegel, one of Germany's largest news magazines: "Putin's Russia: Kremlin Riddled with Former KGB Agents."

In the opening sentences of Der Spiegel's article, readers are informed that: "Four out of five members of Russia's political and business elite have a KGB past, according to a new study by the prestigious [Russian] Academy of Sciences. The influence of ex-Soviet spies has ballooned under President Vladimir Putin."

The study, which looked at 1,061 top Kremlin, regional, and corporate jobs, found that "78 percent of the Russian elite" are what are known in Russia as "siloviki," which is to say, former members of the KGB or its domestic successor, the FSB. The author of the study, Olga Kryshtanovskaya, expressed shock at her own findings. "I was very shocked when I looked at the boards of major companies and realized there were lots of people who had completely unknown names, people who were not public but who were definitely, obvious siloviki," she told Reuters.

Other supposed experts — in Russia and the West — have also expressed surprise and alarm at the apparent resurrection of the dreaded Soviet secret police. After all, for the past decade and a half these same experts have been pointing to the alleged demise of the KGB as the primary evidence supporting their claim that communism is dead.

From the Bolshevik Revolution in 1917, the Russian security apparatus Cheka (and its later permutations: OGPU, NKVD, MGB, KGB) had been the "sword and shield" of the communist world revolution.

"We stand for organized terror," declared Felix Dzerzhinsky, the first chief of the Cheka for Soviet dictator Vladimir Lenin. In 1918, Dzerzhinsky launched the campaign of arrests and executions known as the Red Terror. Krasnaya Gazeta, the Bolshevik newspaper, expressed the Chekist credo when it reported approvingly in 1918 of the terror campaign: "We will make our hearts cruel, hard and immovable, so that no mercy will enter them, and so that they will not quiver at the sight of a sea of enemy blood."

Unflinching cruelty and merciless, bloody terror have been the trademark of the communist secret police, from the Cheka to the KGB. Obviously, the demise of such an organization would be cause for much rejoicing. Hence, when the KGB was ordered dissolved and its chairman, General Vladimir Kryuchkov, was arrested in 1991 after attempting to overthrow "liberal reformer" Mikhail Gorbachev in the failed "August Coup," many people in the West were only too willing to pop the champagne corks and start celebrating our supposed victory over the Evil Empire.

But, as Mikhail Leontiyev, commentator for Russia's state-controlled Channel One television, recently noted, repeating a phrase popular among the siloviki: "Americans got so drunk at the USSR's funeral that they're still hung over." And stumbling around in their post-inebriation haze, many of these Americans have only recently begun noticing that they had prematurely written the KGB's epitaph, even as it was arising vampire-like from the coffin.

However, there is really no excuse for Olga Kryshtanovskaya or any of her American counterparts to be stunned by the current siloviki dominance in Putin's Russia. For nearly a decade, even before he became Russia's "president," THE NEW AMERICAN has been reporting on Putin's KGB pedigree and his steady implementation of a long-range Soviet deception strategy, including the public rehabilitation and refortifying of the KGB-FSB. ..." (continues at link)

http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/8420-putins-russia

[elhombrelibre]

This is just funny. It reveals what a bastard Putin is, still a commie at heart, to his fan club of nitwits admirers who seem to think he’s gone strait and given up on power for power sake. They see him as the ideal man, and we who know our history know him for what he really is. He’s a phony, turned national chauvinist socialist. His greatest regret is the break up of the Soviet Union, a slave state. Lovers of liberty are not fooled by this moron. He’s not the opposite of Obama; he’s Obama unleashed and fulfilled.

[ETL]

It reveals what a bastard Putin is, still a commie at heart, to his fan club of nitwits admirers who seem to think he’s gone strait and given up on power.

We have a Putin fan club right here on FR. But I don't believe for a second that they seriously believe the guy has turned over a new leaf. Some of these nitwits I'm sure are being paid to boost his image.

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The Kremlin’s Troll Army: Moscow is financing legions of pro-Russia Internet commenters

A June article by Max Seddon of BuzzFeed reported the Kremlin was spending millions of dollars to pay English-speaking Russians to promote President Vladimir Putin and his policies in U.S. media like Fox News broadcasting and The Huffington Post and Politico news sites. Trolls are reportedly expected to manage multiple fake accounts and post on news articles 50 times a day, often with sentiments as simplistic as “Putin makes Obama look stupid and weak!”

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/08/the-kremlins-troll-army/375932/
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Documents Show How Russia’s Troll Army Hit America

http://www.buzzfeed.com/maxseddon/documents-show-how-russias-troll-army-hit-america

[elhombrelibre]

It’s an embarrassment on a US Conservative website to have know nothings who don’t understand our philosophy and embrace a corrupt, statist, self-serving foreign tyrant out of despair with our own clownish, corrupt, statist Obama. Oppose them both with principle and manliness. Don’t act like a fawning goober for a jerk and maniac like Putin.

[dila813]

He had to justify who he was standing next too and hint that this is just about Russia’s interests.

[ETL]

I can’t for the life of me understand why they’re allowed to remain here pushing their pro-Russia BS.

[section9]

Part of the reason is that Putin’s KGB State has made an explicit alliance with the Russian Orthodox Church. They look upon the West as decadent and pagan, as do many conservatives.

[ETL]

And Hitler I’m sure won over some dog lovers in his day. Mussolini, some misguided train riders.

[lodi90]

I can’t for the life of me understand why they’re allowed to remain here pushing their pro-Russia BS.

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Not just pro-Russia. Our local Putlicks are often anti-American in their reflexive support of Putinland when they question the integrity of US military, suggest NATO is not a force for good, etc. That type of attitude has no place on a conservative website, IMO.

[ETL]

I’m sure a few at least are being paid to do what they do.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3288901/posts?page=11#11

[lodi90]

In some ways Putin is probably worse than Stalin. They both use(d) mass murder as an instrument to advance policy. But I don’t see evidence Stalin had the lust for personal wealth that Putler does. No real patriot would rape the wealth of his people as Putin has.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2451854/35-cent-household-wealth-Russia-belongs-just-110-billionaires.html

[gattaca]

bmp later