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Nate Silver: Polls are failing us
Politico ^ | 5/8/15 | DYLAN BYERS

Posted on 05/08/2015 11:42:01 AM PDT by jimbo123

Nate Silver fared terribly in Thursday's UK election: In his pre-election forecast, he gave 278 seats to Conservatives and 267 to Labour. Shortly after midnight, he was forecasting 272 seats for Conservatives and 271 for Labour. But when the sun rose in London on Friday, Conservatives had an expected 329 seats, against Labour's 233.

The fault, Silver claimed, was with the polling: "It’s becoming increasingly clear that pre-election polls underestimated how well Conservatives would do and overestimated Labour’s result," the statistician guru wrote in the wee hours of the morning. (He also overestimated the Liberal Democrats' result by roughly 20 seats).

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Nate Silver flops again.
1 posted on 05/08/2015 11:42:01 AM PDT by jimbo123
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Why inform a pollster what you intend to do, if it is contrary to what the media corporation says they want you to do?


2 posted on 05/08/2015 11:43:38 AM PDT by research99
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The “polls” didn’t fail. They said EXACTLY what the pollsters manipulated them to say.

In the Modern Era, Media Polling is now designed to DRIVE the opinion of the Low-Info Voter to politically-approved Leftists, not to measure opinion.

Funny that the British BETTING POOLS got it completely correct, but the leftist-leaning Media polls were wildly off, isn’t it?


3 posted on 05/08/2015 11:47:18 AM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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Sharp!


4 posted on 05/08/2015 11:49:35 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: jimbo123
Sound like valid points to me:

"Voters are becoming harder to contact, especially on landline telephones. Online polls have become commonplace, but some eschew probability sampling, historically the bedrock of polling methodology. And in the U.S., some pollsters have been caught withholding results when they differ from other surveys, “herding” toward a false consensus about a race instead of behaving independently."

5 posted on 05/08/2015 11:56:05 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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“in the U.S., some pollsters have been caught withholding results when they differ from other surveys, “herding” toward a false consensus about a race instead of behaving independently.””

If polls show leftists in lead, publish.
If polls a tie, spin.
If the numbers show conservative lead, bury.

That’s called “Modern Polling Interpretation”


6 posted on 05/08/2015 11:58:12 AM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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Nate Silver: Polls are failing us

Yeah, that happens when your polls start with an agenda.

7 posted on 05/08/2015 11:58:53 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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Let’s see, the NEO-STALINIST Media Megalopoly which whet its appetite on See It Now March 9, 1954 and Mark Feldt-Howard Hughes $100k, sees its role as MAKING rather than reporting “news”, and the professional eunuchs complain about lost jewelry.


8 posted on 05/08/2015 12:01:18 PM PDT by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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Nate Silver: Polls are failing us

Ya think, skippy? That ain't all that's failing us, try every major public and private institution in the U.S.!
9 posted on 05/08/2015 12:02:47 PM PDT by notdownwidems (Washington DC has become the enemy of free people everywhere)
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Nate Silver is an idiot shilling for the hussein regime. His recent article about sports statistics in the ESPN magazine was a bunch of pin-headed nonsense. He knows nothing about facts and reality.


10 posted on 05/08/2015 12:04:03 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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Shortly after midnight, he was forecasting 272 seats for Conservatives and 271 for Labour.

And yet in the US, he's viewed as an Oracle who can predict the US elections several months out with 90%+ certainty.

11 posted on 05/08/2015 12:04:13 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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Silver is no longer the gold standard of polls?


12 posted on 05/08/2015 12:14:52 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Doctrine doesn't change. The trick is to find a way around it.)
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While I am certain Nate Silver is a sharp guy, his Obama prognostication in 2008 and 12 seem to be the outliers in his success rate. I have no idea how he got those SO right when he can’t seem to get close to accurate in other areas. In 2008 I figured he just used inside data to get his numbers. However in 2012 he picked the states exactly right. He definitely has some model that gets these electoral votes correct.


13 posted on 05/08/2015 12:20:44 PM PDT by ilgipper
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Oh no! Does this mean we may have to wait until actual voters have spoken to determine winners and losers?


14 posted on 05/08/2015 12:22:07 PM PDT by Spartan79 (I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health, and the liberties of man. Jefferson)
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The one thing Silver fails to factor in.. is his own liberal bias.

He is usually good at predicting liberal wins, but it’s becoming more and more obvious he is horrible at predicting conservative ones.


15 posted on 05/08/2015 12:23:23 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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Anyone cheeky enough to ask about my vote would be invited to perform one or more unnatural acts.

Election Day is one single day i.e. 24 hours with years of runup. Just because the media get geeked up and can’t wait until the next morning to get the results is not an excuse for all the speculation and so-called scientific predictions.


16 posted on 05/08/2015 12:23:54 PM PDT by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends)
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More like wishful thinking on the part of a biased pollster....


17 posted on 05/08/2015 12:25:06 PM PDT by Ben Mugged (The number one enemy of liberalism is reality.)
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While I am certain Nate Silver is a sharp guy, his Obama prognostication in 2008 and 12 seem to be the outliers in his success rate. I have no idea how he got those SO right when he can’t seem to get close to accurate in other areas. In 2008 I figured he just used inside data to get his numbers. However in 2012 he picked the states exactly right. He definitely has some model that gets these electoral votes correct.

George Soros informed him quietly about how the election fraud was going to play out.

18 posted on 05/08/2015 12:27:41 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Jeb Bush makes John McCain look like Barry Goldwater.)
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Polls are failing us? What have those pesky polls done now?


19 posted on 05/08/2015 12:38:31 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“Polls are Failing Us” = “Liberals Lost Again”


20 posted on 05/08/2015 12:41:24 PM PDT by jimbo123
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