1. Freddie Grey broke his back in the police van.
2. Plenty of prisoners thrash around in police vehicle, it's very, very rare that they do it fatality.
3. It would take a lot of force to fracture 3 vertebrae, and a collision at a decent speed.
4. Confined in a 6 to 80 foot area, it would be difficult for a handcuffed man to obtain the velocity to fracture 3 vertebrae in a collision with a hard object.
5. It would NOT be unusual if subject to a sudden stop or jolt at 25-30 miles per hour.
6. Police will sometimes give “extra service” to unruly prisoners in the back of a police van - that includes sudden starts and stops, driving over curbs, etc. Just ask your urban police friends, it happens from time to time.
7. The driver of the van made an “unscheduled stop”
8. The driver of the van has refused to make a statement.
There is not enough evidence here to result in a conviction “beyond a reasonable doubt” certainly, but there is enough for an indictment.
I also think your Point #7 is really relevant.
It appears that, in the midst of a growing national controversy... a city at risk... etc. etc., that the police intentionally failed to disclose one of the stops that was made or outright lied.
It sounds as though the only reason investigators learned of that stop was because a private citizen recorded it.
So many questions... why did they stop? What happened there? Why did the officers fail to report that when it occurred, and why did they not disclose it after the fact?
I'm a law-and-order man, but this just smells bad.
I'm just arm-chair quarterbacking now... but aren't we all? Not publicly releasing information, after promising that they would, is a mistake.
“”3. It would take a lot of force to fracture 3 vertebrae, and a collision at a decent speed.””
Nope.
I have 2 family members that did exactly this in a slip and fall accident, no vehicle involved, just a fall from standing height. One resulted in death.
The human body is far more frail than most realize.
That’s if he even broke his back. See this is what I can’t stand about the professional race baiters, not only the ones like Sharpton, but the ones in the press as well. They say his larynx was crushed and is spine was “severed”, but where are they getting this info? Has the autopsy report been released yet to the public? For all we know he could have purposely slammed his head into the van at the same time the van stopped short breaking his neck, but we won’t know any of this until the autopsy report is released to the public. It seems this prosecutor is saying just that, because they didn’t make him wear his seatbelt his neck was broken but we have to wait for the report.
There's so much news that needs reporting and we're going to waste the next months, (years?), on this mess (and other orchestrated messes). Then when the jury finally doesn't convict, there will be more riots and calls for national police force, bla, bla. Obama skates by until he's thrown out in January, 2017. Seems like a long way off today. .
Freddie Grey broke his back in the police van.
Read somewhere else that he had back surgery recently.
If true, that’s a big ? regarding otherwise breaking his back in the van.
# 8
If this is still the United States of America the Driver and all others involved in this episode has a Constitutional right to be silent!
I’m sure, you probably knew that.
If they didn’t have government employment or welfare I think most all would starve...or learn to go to work for a real living.
It’s a shame.
Looks to me like they were looking to teach the scumbag a lesson, and ended up killing him in the process. I disagree with second degree murder, but manslaughter or negligent homicide are in the realm of possibility. It would appear that she has more than enough to indict.
If we want police held to the same stamdard as everyone else, then there are going to be cases where police are indicted for doing bad things to bad actors.