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Did Freddie Gray Have a Spinal Injury Before His Arrest? No.
http://heavy.com/news/2015/04/freddie-gray-spinal-injury-surgery-fusion-before-arrest-baltimore-police-van-car-accident-insurance-rumor-conspiracy-theories-false/ ^ | 4/29/2015 | Tom Cleary

Posted on 04/29/2015 3:59:42 PM PDT by Katya

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To: Clintonfatigued
Conservatives need to stop reflexively defending police regardless of the facts

or the other way around

21 posted on 04/29/2015 4:31:41 PM PDT by GeronL (Clearly Cruz 2016)
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To: familyop

Too many cops today are soldier wannabes who are unwilling to fight in a real warmup want to play soldier with their fellow citizens. Just as much thugs as the animals in Baltimore but far more dangerous as the have the courts on their side as well as the gangsta PBA and FOP.


22 posted on 04/29/2015 4:34:28 PM PDT by ZULU (Je Suis Charlie. . GET IT OBAMA, OR DON'T YOU??)
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To: ZULU
Not sure where you are getting the idea that the governor is an idiot - he's the only one that seems to have a clue, and he has acted when he was able to (after the dopey mayor finally asked for assistance).
23 posted on 04/29/2015 4:46:45 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason ("Journalism is dead. All news is suspect." - Noamie)
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To: catnipman

I agree we really need to avoid speculation. It is interesting, though, that the authorities have really clamped down and no one involved seems to be talking to media sources.


24 posted on 04/29/2015 4:47:34 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: ZULU
The cops are closing the blue wall of silence to cover their misdeeds.

Nothing new with that. What is new is the Chief of Police is not covering for them. That's remarkable on its own.

25 posted on 04/29/2015 4:48:08 PM PDT by MeganC (You can ignore reality, but reality won't ignore you.)
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To: Regal
As far as I’m concerned, throw up your hands, let them book you and then hire an ass-whipping attorney. You’d be surprised how often the cops lose in court, and there’s a lot less blood shed.

Well that particular crowd ain't exactly into strategic thinking.

26 posted on 04/29/2015 4:52:03 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Katya; Conscience of a Conservative; don-o; chris37; colorado tanker; Sherman Logan; ZULU; ...

Free Republic mentioned twice in the article!

The truth about Freddie Gray's 'pre-existing injury from car accident'
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-gray-settlement-20150429-story.html


27 posted on 04/29/2015 4:52:48 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: MeganC
See comment #27!


28 posted on 04/29/2015 4:53:47 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Regal

Hire an attorney like OJ’s attorney. Then you can beat city/county hall!


29 posted on 04/29/2015 4:56:03 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: familyop

That story is pathetic.


30 posted on 04/29/2015 4:58:57 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o
"That story is pathetic."

Well, I reckon one could critique the story through the following.

"By Mark Puente and Doug Donovan The Baltimore Sun contact the reporters"

mpuente@baltsun.com

ddonovan@baltsun.com


31 posted on 04/29/2015 5:11:15 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: familyop

Here is email that I sent to the BS reporters:

The fact of the matter is that Free Republic is not the source for this rumor disguised as a new story. It was posted on the FR forum from a blog fourthestate.co.

There then ensued a discussion that now has over 200 comments. Within an hour and a half, one of the posters, Conscience of a Conservative, had found out the facts of the matter; and he did not even have to visit the Court House.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3284149/posts?page=144#144

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3284149/posts?page=168#168

Perhaps you would wish to enlarge and extend your story to give full and proper coverage of Free Republic’s real investigative reporting?

Sincerely


32 posted on 04/29/2015 5:13:26 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o
Well done! It's a good thing, too. That story was taking on a life of its own, and some similar stories have been disseminated since.

What's next in the Freddie Gray investigation? Probe is expected to be completed Friday
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3284231/posts

Freddie Gray Rap Sheet
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3284256/posts


33 posted on 04/29/2015 5:21:50 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: don-o

Talking about some of the comments in those threads, BTW.


34 posted on 04/29/2015 5:22:16 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Katya

I think that the video shows that he was injured before the police drug him to the cruiser. If he crashed on his bicycle he could have been suffering something like this;

http://www.sott.net/article/251718-Woman-Survives-Rare-Internal-Decapitation

“Internal decapitation, or atlanto-occipital dislocation, occurs when head trauma separates the skull from the spinal column while leaving the exterior of the neck intact.

According to a 2006 study in the Canadian Journal of Emergency Medicine, the sensation of instability that results when part or all of the spinal column is severed in a still-conscious person “may cause patients to experience the sensation that their ‘head is falling off.’”

Because the types of head injury that can cause internal decapitation usually also involve severe nerve damage or the severing of the spinal cord, the usual result is paralysis or death.

Bailey escaped those fates handily, but she says she can’t remember anything from the month-and-a-half period starting a few days before the crash.

Though her nearly full recovery is very rare, it isn’t unique. Among her new colleagues in the tiny subset of people who have survived an internal decapitation is Shannon Malloy, a Nebraska woman who, in 2007, emerged from a car crash without paralysis and in good enough shape to talk to the press a few months later.”

Here is a list of accidents that involve internal decapitation.

http://www.ask.com/wiki/Internal_decapitation

I think that an accident before hand makes the most sense. The police failed to provide him medical care that worsened the injury and contributed to or resulted in his death.


35 posted on 04/29/2015 5:49:03 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission (Yes, I did get my first aid merit badge!)
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To: familyop

I wouldn’t believe any single word in the Baltimore Sun.


36 posted on 04/29/2015 5:50:31 PM PDT by expat2
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

The video is quite damning... I don’t think the cops intended to kill him, but the fact is he died due to their aggressive mishandling of him. The Baltimore cops have had many suits filed against them... hopefully some good will come at the end of all of this.


37 posted on 04/29/2015 7:19:15 PM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: Katya

In protests, sometimes the people would go all limp force the police to drag them. In this instance his feet do not appear to be moving, does not appear to be the case. I suppose that it is a medical issue that the coroner will have to sort out.


38 posted on 04/29/2015 7:31:58 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: ZULU

Can you tell us what on earth makes you think that the governor of Maryland is an “idiot,” like the Baltimore mayor?


39 posted on 04/29/2015 7:52:04 PM PDT by ottbmare (the OTTB mare, now a proud Marine Mom)
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To: ottbmare

When he realized what was happening, he should have had the National Guard mobilized and down there a lot sooner. Once they showed up, things immediately improved. He waited too damn long. This was close to an insurrection and even the entire police force was inadequate.


40 posted on 04/29/2015 11:44:06 PM PDT by ZULU (Je Suis Charlie. . GET IT OBAMA, OR DON'T YOU??)
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