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Ohio Cop Refuses to Resort to Deadly Force: 'I Wanted to Be Absolutely Sure'
NBC News ^ | Elizabeth Chuck

Posted on 04/20/2015 9:14:39 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd

A rookie Ohio cop is being praised for "great restraint and maturity" after he held off using deadly force against a double murder suspect who charged at him, his police chief said.

In a confrontation Thursday with a man accused of killing his fiancee and his best friend, New Richmond Police Officer Jesse Kidder is heard on his body-camera video yelling, "No man, I'm not going to do it!" and ordering the suspect to get down on the ground.

The suspect rushes toward him shouting, "Shoot me, shoot me!"

"Back up!" screams Kidder, holding his gun out. The man finally crumples to the ground just feet away from the officer in the video taken in the Cincinnati suburb of Elsmere, Kentucky.

~snip~

In the Kentucky case, the suspect was believed to be armed and is heard threatening the officer on the video.

"For him to make the judgment call that he did shows great restraint and maturity," New Richmond Police Chief Randy Harvey told WLWT about Kidder, who's been on the force for a year. "This video footage, it eliminated all doubt that this officer would have been justified if in fact it came to a shooting."

Kidder, who did two tours of duty in Iraq as a Marine and is a Purple Heart recipient, told WLWT that a relative had given him a body camera to use at work after the Ferguson shooting.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: nobadcop; nodonutwatch; notbanglist; ohio
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Rookies.

(pshhh...)

1 posted on 04/20/2015 9:14:39 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

Seriesly. Was this a rookie mistake? Or a stone cold calculated, well thought out decision that worked?


2 posted on 04/20/2015 9:15:50 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Also FTA....

"I was trying to open a dialogue with him. 'I don't want to shoot you, get on the ground,' but he wasn't having it. He kept repeating, 'Shoot me.' At one point, he said 'Shoot me or I'll shoot you,'" Kidder told WLWT.

3 posted on 04/20/2015 9:17:45 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility.)
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To: null and void
Andy Griffith ping.
4 posted on 04/20/2015 9:18:14 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

What no cop shooting like a Nazi story or the tired old one of shooting a dog? LOL.

good for this cop but he sure was taking a risk with his own life.

There is a video years back of another GA cop doing the same and he ended up dead with a bunch of rounds in his head after a traffic stop. The cop was trying to be nice and not resort to deadly force.

Anyone interested here is the link and video to watch.

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=ga+cop+traffic+stop+gets+killed+by+vietnam+vet&FORM=VIRE1#view=detail&mid=B6C6D0DCBF34EEBEB5EAB6C6D0DCBF34EEBEB5EA


5 posted on 04/20/2015 9:18:40 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Responsibility2nd
At some point, the cops are going have somebody get away from them that goes on to commit additional murder and mayhem. A bullet would have easily stopped him but the cops were using restraint and in doing so, allowed him to get away.

Bet the cops end up getting blamed for that as well.

6 posted on 04/20/2015 9:19:25 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: null and void

JBT ping.

You’re a fair guy. When a cop shows fairness, decency and restraint; you will ping that too.

Question is... Is this cop a moron lucky to be alive?


7 posted on 04/20/2015 9:19:53 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

You bet. They need to hire more cops who’ll shoot quickly, regardless if they ever see a weapon or not.


8 posted on 04/20/2015 9:20:47 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: manc
he sure was taking a risk with his own life.

That's the job - anyone not man enough should find a different vocation.

9 posted on 04/20/2015 9:21:42 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Sadly, the media mafia scrutiny will probably lead to more officer deaths due to be overly cautious. I have to wonder how much potential scrutiny influenced his decision. He looked well justified to at least shoot to injure and stop this person.


10 posted on 04/20/2015 9:21:45 AM PDT by No Socialist
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To: manc

A longer link and other links

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=ga+cop+traffic+stop+gets+killed+by+vietnam+vet&FORM=VIRE1#view=detail&mid=692299689E2255906373692299689E2255906373

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=ga+cop+traffic+stop+gets+killed+by+vietnam+vet&FORM=VIRE1#a


11 posted on 04/20/2015 9:22:30 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: ConservingFreedom

A brave job indeed then.

A risk in the fact that he could have ended up like the other cop on the link provided on this thread.

He too was being nice and was more of a rookie who did not want to used deadly force right away. He died with a shot to the head finishing him off


12 posted on 04/20/2015 9:23:54 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: dragnet2

If you have time please check the links on the thread of another nice cop though the outcome was different.


13 posted on 04/20/2015 9:24:43 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: ConservingFreedom
he sure was taking a risk with his own life.

That's the job - anyone not man enough should find a different vocation.

It's not a cops job to take an unnecessary risk.

14 posted on 04/20/2015 9:27:08 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: manc

That’s right. They should be hiring officers who’ll shoot suspects to death even if they don’t see a weapon.

Why take any chances?


15 posted on 04/20/2015 9:27:18 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Responsibility2nd

And now we get to pay for the perp’s incarceration for the next 45 years.


16 posted on 04/20/2015 9:29:20 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (True followers of Christ emulate Christ. True followers of Mohammed emulate Mohammed.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Now lefties and other cop haters (near and far) are going to be demanding this level of insanity from every police officer out there. The dude is lucky to be alive.

Clearly this was a case of the killer trying “suicide by cop”.


17 posted on 04/20/2015 9:29:32 AM PDT by vpintheak (Call the left what they are - regressive control-freaks)
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To: No Socialist
I have to wonder how much potential scrutiny influenced his decision.

I think the primary factor was his military service, where he learned that saving his own skin was not the highest priority - which is also true of any police officer worthy of his badge.

18 posted on 04/20/2015 9:29:46 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: FreeReign
It's not a cops job to take an unnecessary risk.

His chief says different:

"For him to make the judgment call that he did shows great restraint and maturity," New Richmond Police Chief Randy Harvey told WLWT

19 posted on 04/20/2015 9:32:00 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I heard that dispatch may have told the cop this guy was wanting to commit suicide by cop. Also the cop was a war veteran.


20 posted on 04/20/2015 9:32:23 AM PDT by Starstruck
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