Look at how many pages are in the federal tax code

washingtonexaminer.com ^ | 4/15/2015 | Jason Russell

[rktman]

As they rush to file their taxes by April 15, Americans are rightfully frustrated with the complexity of the 74,608-page-long federal tax code.

The federal tax code is 187 times longer than it was a century ago, according to Wolters Kluwer, CCH, which has analyzed the federal tax code since 1913.

Amazingly, in the first 26 years of the federal income tax, the tax code only grew from 400 to 504 pages. Even through President Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal, the tax code was well under 1,000 pages. Changes during World War II made the length of the tax code balloon to 8,200 pages.

[rktman]

How much brain power does it take to figure out a flat tax on everybody of, say 15%-18% would eliminate all this crap? No deductions, no special clauses nada. You pay the agreeed upon amount, they collect it, no forms to fill out. Nothing. But, since the irs isn't going to get the axe due to the amount of jobs that would be lost, what's to be done?

[all the best]

Though shall not steal. I am not a Bible scholar nor do I play one on the internet. That said I know of know exemption for majority vote. We have become a nation of thieves and very few Christians have a problem with that. Heaven help us. Very few conservatives have a problem with that. They just want to reform or “improve” the system.

[Don Corleone]

No deductions, no special clauses nada

Of course therein lies the beauty of the code, the ability of the government to reward the connected and the favored and punish the rest.

[SpaceBar]

The shackles of modern slavery in the US are made of paper.

[kiryandil]

Americans are rightfully frustrated with the complexity of the 74,608-page-long federal tax code.

It took the lieRS 6 months to get around to my explanation of their own documentation to them last year.

I swear, they must have maybe 3-4 real live tax analysts that can understand their code if they look at it long enough.

I would have charged them for my time, but that might have meant more interaction with the know-nothings on their "help" line...

[kiryandil]

Of course therein lies the beauty of the code, the ability of the government to reward the connected and the favored and punish the rest.

Anarcho-tyranny:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_T._Francis#Anarcho-tyranny

Sam Francis wrote: What we have in this country today, then, is both anarchy (the failure of the state to enforce the laws) and, at the same time, tyranny – the enforcement of laws by the state for oppressive purposes; the criminalization of the law-abiding and innocent through exorbitant taxation, bureaucratic regulation, the invasion of privacy, and the engineering of social institutions, such as the family and local schools; the imposition of thought control through "sensitivity training" and multiculturalist curricula, "hate crime" laws, gun-control laws that punish or disarm otherwise law-abiding citizens but have no impact on violent criminals who get guns illegally, and a vast labyrinth of other measures. In a word, anarcho-tyranny.

And he also wrote: The laws that are enforced are either those that extend or entrench the power of the state and its allies and internal elites ... or else they are the laws that directly punish those recalcitrant and "pathological" elements in society who insist on behaving according to traditional norms – people who do not like to pay taxes, wear seat belts, or deliver their children to the mind-bending therapists who run the public schools; or the people who own and keep firearms, display or even wear the Confederate flag, put up Christmas trees, spank their children, and quote the Constitution or the Bible – not to mention dissident political figures who actually run for office and try to do something about mass immigration by Third World populations.

[St_Thomas_Aquinas]

Great quote. Reminds me of why I used to subscribe to Chronicles.

[Blood of Tyrants]

10%. If it is enough for God, it’s enough for the government.

[taxcontrol]

The entire tax code should be reduced till it fits on one side of an 8.5 x 11 sheet of paper and printed in 12 point font.

[TheBattman]

Matches up with the growing mound of paperwork the average taxpayer has to deal with.

There is absolutely ZERO reason the average family should have to keep up with/file a stack of paperwork to PAY TAXES...

The code is too complex in an attempt to cover every twist and turn, and to open/shut opportunities/loopholes/etc.

This is why we need an alternative system of funding the government. One that first requires the government stay within its Constitutional bounds, thus vastly reducing the cost in the first place. Then we need a genuinely FAIR system to pay for said Constitutional government - one that EVERYONE pays their “fair share”. If one is going to live here and benefit from living here, you should pay SOMETHING towards it - you should be invested in this nation.

[Dick Bachert]

LEARN THE FACTS: HTTP://WWW.FAIRTAX.ORG
When will America FINALLY rid itself of a slave tax system better suited to a third world banana republic dictatorship and is as much about having a mechanism by which the political class can reward its friends and punish its enemies than it is about raising the revenue for the Constitutional and necessary functions of government!
Then there’s THIS. I have a number of issues with ol’ Honest Abe, but he got THIS ONE SPOT ON:
“The tariff is the cheaper system, because the duties, being
collected in large parcels at a few commercial points, will
require comparatively few officers in their collection; while by
the direct (income) tax system, the land must be literally
covered with assessors and collectors, going forth like swarms of
Egyptian locusts, devouring every blade of grass and other green
things.”
President Abraham Lincoln. The quote comes from “Campaign Circular from Whig Committee” written on March 4, 1843. It was co-authored by Lincoln It can be found in volume 1 of the Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln,page 309.

[pierrem15]

My wife and I changed jobs, moved, filed a partial year tax return from the state we left.

31 pages of tax forms and worksheets.

Insane.

[ForYourChildren]

“74,608-page-long federal tax code”

Ok, we need more obama-care, sports exemptions, green exemptions, more immigration codes, illegal alien codes, increases here, decreases there, etc etc. But most importantly, we need more IRS agents. Ya, that will do it.

[Svartalfiar]

A flat tax would be a good start.

Then, get rid of the FedGov taxes altogether. Take your Fed budget, divide by 535. Each member of Congress takes their 1/535th share back to their state, which then forwards those amounts to the beast. Each state can raise their share however they want, income, sales, however they do it.

Add in eliminating all the non-necessary parts of the gov like EPA, DoE, DoE, consolidating the 5+ different land/forest groups, DHS, etc etc, and you’ve got a good thing going.

[MaggiesPitchfork]

They don’t care if people have jobs or not; even with a flat tax they’ll find reasons to employ all those union scum. It’s all about control over the people, starting with confiscating money from our paychecks without so much as a whimper from us over the decades. The 500+ corrupt btards in DC and our state gub’mints can just come and take everything we have on nothing more than a whim. The more complicated the tax code, the less control anyone has over it. It might as well not even exist, they can make stuff up and it’s probably in there somewhere.