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No Evolution Is Proof of Evolution?
Institute for Creation Research ^ | April 2015 | Jeffrey P. Tomkins, Ph.D., Tim Clarey, Ph.D., and Jason Lisle, Ph.D.*

Posted on 04/07/2015 6:57:05 AM PDT by fishtank

No Evolution Is Proof of Evolution?

by Jeffrey P. Tomkins, Ph.D., Tim Clarey, Ph.D., and Jason Lisle, Ph.D.*

Scientists recently discovered a community of fossilized sulfur-metabolizing bacteria that are alleged to be 1.8 billion years old.1 Surprisingly, the microbes are virtually identical to their modern counterparts, yet the study authors claim that the microbes are proof of evolution.

(Excerpt) Read more at icr.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: bs; creation; evolution
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* Dr. Tomkins received his Ph.D. in Genetics from Clemson University.

Dr. Clarey received a Ph.D. in geology from Western Michigan University.

Dr. Lisle received a Ph.D. in astrophysics from the University of Colorado.

Dr. Tomkins and Dr. Clarey are Research Associates and Dr. Lisle is Director of Research at the Institute for Creation Research.

1 posted on 04/07/2015 6:57:05 AM PDT by fishtank
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To: fishtank

ICR article image.

2 posted on 04/07/2015 6:57:26 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

In fairness, the lack of rising temperatures in the last 15 years is further proof of Global Warming...um...er...I mean, Climate Change!


3 posted on 04/07/2015 7:00:22 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (Public sector unions: A & B agreeing on a contract to screw C!)
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To: fishtank

Do you have have articles from MAD magazine, an equally reliable source as icr?

Once again, the concept of stochasticism is misrepresented by those with a political agenda.

But laypeople don’t know this and eat this nonsense up like ice cream. icr should mean “ice cream research.”

OK, I will now stand back and just let you misrepresent science and make false equivalencies — the usual MO.


4 posted on 04/07/2015 7:03:03 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Cruznial is a mental disorder that effects the brain of liberals where they deny he is" electable.")
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Did you hurt your arm, patting yourself so proudly on your back?

IF, any misrepresentation was done, write an article of rebuttal.

“Stasis” (a period or state of inactivity or equilibrium) is quite different from “Stochastic” (a system whose state is randomly determined), so why not begin with where they mention “stochasticism” and then point out how ‘random’ is used vice ‘equilibrium’?


5 posted on 04/07/2015 7:15:09 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: fishtank

A friend of mine is a renowned mycologist who has made some very noteworthy contributions to the field. He thinks professional wrestling is real.


6 posted on 04/07/2015 7:22:02 AM PDT by stormer
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"Stasis, in the sense that kinds always remain the same, is a direct prediction of the creation model as indicated in the book of Genesis, which designates that biological life reproduces only after its kind. And there is nothing unscientific or illogical about that."

What "kind" is this?

7 posted on 04/07/2015 7:30:12 AM PDT by stormer
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To: fishtank

The omni-theory. Can be made to fit any past data or observation. And since it’s future prediction is “change” (or not), it has that covered, too.


8 posted on 04/07/2015 7:31:18 AM PDT by Mudtiger
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To: stormer

Walks like a bird, talks like a bird. Must be a Chupacabra.


9 posted on 04/07/2015 7:33:40 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: fishtank

It’s like GW. It is not disprovable. Any conceivable or inconceivable development or discovery is proof.


10 posted on 04/07/2015 7:40:27 AM PDT by arthurus (it's true!)
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A bird with teeth, fore-claws, and a long bony tail? Looks like a dinosaur to me. Speaking of which, what “kind” are they?


11 posted on 04/07/2015 7:41:47 AM PDT by stormer
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Dead


12 posted on 04/07/2015 7:43:02 AM PDT by Lake Living
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To: ExTxMarine

At this point glaciers advancing to cover Ontario in one year would be incontrovertible proof of GW.


13 posted on 04/07/2015 7:43:03 AM PDT by arthurus (it's true!)
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Perhaps a little further south.


14 posted on 04/07/2015 8:03:43 AM PDT by stormer
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A bird with teeth, fore-claws, and a long bony tail? Looks like a dinosaur to me.

And it looks like a bird to me. One that is long extinct. BTW, some modern birds have teeth (e.g Greylag Goose)

Speaking of which, what “kind” are they?

The 'bird' kind.

15 posted on 04/07/2015 8:05:24 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: arthurus
It’s like GW. It is not disprovable. Any conceivable or inconceivable development or discovery is proof.

Not really actually. But its fun to say it is, and thus be able to disregard it in the same manner... beats understanding it, thats for sure.

16 posted on 04/07/2015 8:15:12 AM PDT by Paradox (Sayin it like I see it, wherever and whenever I see fit.)
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Thse separations of the break are called tomia. Birds can’t produce enamel and their is no root. They aren’t teeth in the physiological sense.


17 posted on 04/07/2015 8:23:07 AM PDT by stormer
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To: stormer

there, not their


18 posted on 04/07/2015 9:03:39 AM PDT by stormer
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To: stormer

NOAA’s data and reports have proven to be highly politically reliable.


19 posted on 04/07/2015 9:17:50 AM PDT by arthurus (it's true!)
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To: freedumb2003
Evolution does not created superior species. For example, the Android phone evolved from the iphone, but the iphone is clearly superior... (just thought I would create more controversy on this thread... :) )
20 posted on 04/07/2015 9:51:28 AM PDT by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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