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Carly Fiorina blames environmentalists for California drought
Politico ^ | 4-6-15 | Kendall Breitman

Posted on 04/07/2015 3:50:42 AM PDT by Vaquero

Carly Fiorina is blaming liberal environmentalists for what she calls a “man-made” drought in California

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: US: California
KEYWORDS: drought; water
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Dude......gotta save the snail darter! (Or whatever is the wildlife of the month in CA)
1 posted on 04/07/2015 3:50:42 AM PDT by Vaquero
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To: Vaquero

I don’t support iCarly for president, but I gotta applaud her aggressiveness. She is obviously aiming for a position in the upcoming Republican administration.


2 posted on 04/07/2015 3:55:56 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Isn't it funny that Socialists never want to share their own money?)
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To: Vaquero

She is absolutely correct on this one. The environmental lobby and the politicians it has bought in California has done more to harm the California economy and agriculture industry than any combination of natural disasters ever could.


3 posted on 04/07/2015 3:57:06 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (frequently.)
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To: Cowboy Bob

With her aggressive truth telling, she’s definitely auditioning for VP.


4 posted on 04/07/2015 3:57:41 AM PDT by newfreep ("Evil succeeds when good men do nothting" - Edmund Burke)
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To: Vaquero
The Delta Smelt.

-PJ

5 posted on 04/07/2015 4:08:44 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Vaquero

She’s right about this but she’s not my candidate. Either Cruz or Walker.


6 posted on 04/07/2015 4:12:57 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Political Junkie Too; Vaquero

Naw, let’s go next-level, and save the habitat of the Downy Blue Screech Hipster Owl...


7 posted on 04/07/2015 4:18:50 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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To: Vaquero

Start with livestock production which is incredibly damaging to animals AND the environment not to mention is half the water used in the country.


8 posted on 04/07/2015 4:19:34 AM PDT by erlayman
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To: Political Junkie Too

yea....smelt to high heavens


9 posted on 04/07/2015 4:22:47 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero

This is a terrific article which lays it all out.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/californias-green-drought-1428271308

No major water infrastructure has been completed in California since the 1960s due to environmental obsessions.

Construction of water retention infrastructure and desalination plants are confronted by years of insane environmental lawfare.

Environmental rules forbid pumping excess water from the north Californian catchment to reservoirs in the south.

And the Democrats insist on pouring fresh water into the sea.


10 posted on 04/07/2015 4:26:50 AM PDT by agere_contra (Hamas has dug miles of tunnels - but no bomb-shelters.)
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Start with livestock production which is incredibly damaging to animals AND the environment not to mention is half the water used in the country

You sure you didn't mean to post at the Daily Kos??

news flash...we utilize livestock. and California and the US Govt. stopped water to the central valley farms....because people in that central valley are mostly republicans. it didn't matter that it used to feed much of America.

the problem is cramming millions into a friggin desert and then preventing the building of a watershed and dams.

11 posted on 04/07/2015 4:29:46 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: agere_contra

I watched a show on the science channel, I believe, where this guy was getting permits, then tearing down damn, so the salmon can come back there after a century of the fish being gone.


12 posted on 04/07/2015 4:32:17 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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bfl


13 posted on 04/07/2015 4:34:46 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it." -- Flannery O'Connor)
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You make a ridiculous statement. Grain production is equally damaging if not more so. Check out the MS River delta where millions of tons of topsoil are found. Worst of all are cities that cover every square inch of soil with impermeable concrete and buildings.


14 posted on 04/07/2015 4:36:54 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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He is another ignorant urbanite living on impermeable concrete to cover the topsoil.


15 posted on 04/07/2015 4:38:52 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Vaquero

Certainly more evidence of “man-made California drought than for “man-made” global warming. Desalination effort blocked (cement plant conversion), no dam to keep the river from FLOWING FREELY past the thirsty people (to protect a non-indigenous fish). Frankly, they worked hard to deserve their draught.


16 posted on 04/07/2015 4:40:37 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ($$$$$ Don't Defund the Government...Defund Obama and his illegal policies $$$$$)
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To: Vaquero
The real problem as far as water goes in California is that a whole bunch of people live where there isn't all that much water for them to live on. So, it must be piped in via the aqueduct system.

Any time you start moving a resource from where it is readily available to where it isn't you are setting yourself up for catastrophic failure.

17 posted on 04/07/2015 4:42:41 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Vaquero

The enviro-whackos are also Population Control zealots, which seems to be the driving force along side Eugenics.


18 posted on 04/07/2015 4:54:22 AM PDT by G Larry (Obama Hates America, Israel, Capitalism, Freedom, and Christianity.)
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To: Vaquero

Sorry, this is nonsense.

The drought is a fact of nature. Runoff is a small percentage of “normal.” Under such conditions, it simply doesn’t matter all that much how many dams you have or whether you do or do not direct water to keeping stream flows going for environmental reasons.

All such concerns can do at this point in time is to nibble around the edges of the problem.

I suppose an engineer could sit down and figure out what the state’s water problems would be today if all possible storage had been built over the last 50 years. They would doubtless be less severe, but the problem would still exist.

The problem is essentially two-fold:

1. Moving vast numbers of people into a region that cannot support them based on variable runoff.

2. Using vast amounts of water to grow water-intensive crops in desert or semi-desert regions. Again with the source of water being areas with highly variable runoff.

You simply can’t collect or store water that doesn’t run off.

BTW, I suggest it’s a conservative principle to not initiate settlement or agricultural patterns that are not sustainable in the long run. It’s the “progressive” mindset that believes we can or should ignore the constraints of the real world.


19 posted on 04/07/2015 4:56:16 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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I suggest it’s a conservative principle to not initiate settlement or agricultural patterns that are not sustainable in the long run.

It is also a conservative principle that the meaning of the word "sustainable" be determined by the market, and not by central planners. How would you determine who is to settle where?

20 posted on 04/07/2015 4:58:45 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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