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California governor on drought: Climate change not a hoax 'We're dealing with it, and it's damn srs
msnbc.com ^ | 4/5/2015 | Joseph Neese

Posted on 04/06/2015 8:08:33 AM PDT by rktman

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To: rktman

For the “little people” non-agriproducers of CA— no, they were not allowed desalinization plants. Instead they were gifted with rapid transit to nowhere, at extreme federal cost.

And now, wah,wah- they have no water! Surprise.


21 posted on 04/06/2015 8:51:33 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: rktman

Kali built water infrastructure for so many Americans, then they let in tens of million of illegal aliens.

Idiots.


22 posted on 04/06/2015 8:51:51 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: rktman

Moonbeam is the face of Big Gruberment.


23 posted on 04/06/2015 8:57:05 AM PDT by kiryandil (Egging the battleship USS Sarah Palin from their little Progressive rowboats...)
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To: rktman; P-Marlowe

I’m betting that cycles show this drought is not unexpected or unusual in terms of great spans of time.


24 posted on 04/06/2015 8:57:09 AM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: rktman

The Democrats wish all you non-rich Californians would just do them a favor and die.


25 posted on 04/06/2015 9:13:44 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: rktman
You only need a quart of water to bathe in. Here is proof!


26 posted on 04/06/2015 9:15:28 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: rktman

Man-made climate change is a hoax. The drought is real. Rather than build a train to nowhere for $100 billion maybe it’s time to do what Israel has done for years— build desalination plants and keep California green....


27 posted on 04/06/2015 9:17:05 AM PDT by freebilly
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To: John S Mosby

I live in the California of the East (NJ) and back in the 80s, we had droughts and car-washing bans, and rules about showers and blah blah blah. I remember back then Al Roker was a local NYC weatherman, and for some reason he was always delighted when he was talking about the drought. It was like ice cream to him. I also have a memory of playing little league baseball during long, long droughts in the 60s in Pennsylvania. So anyway, my long and seasoned memory tells me that droughts are here, droughts are there, they come and go, regardless of whether we all drive SUVs or ride bicycles. Same with hurricanes and blizzards and all that. Man-made climate change is a hoax meant to soften us up to the idea of paying tax on carbon, which means paying more tax on everything. That’s all it is.


28 posted on 04/06/2015 9:20:18 AM PDT by duckworth (Perhaps instant karma's going to get you. Perhaps not.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Please stop this nonsense! The majority of California is NOT a desert. Repeating bogus information is no better than Uncle Jerry’s nonsense.


29 posted on 04/06/2015 9:25:06 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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California governor on drought: Climate change not a hoax 'We're dealing with it, and it's damn srs

No. You're dealing with the consequences of stupid Democrat decisions to release most of the water from the central valley reservoirs to save some trash minnow.

Actually, the reason the Democrats caused the drought was to devalue the farmland so the corrupt Democrats could buy it up at pennies on the dollar.

30 posted on 04/06/2015 9:25:30 AM PDT by meadsjn
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[Gov. Moonbeam] Brown said in response. “They’re [Californians are] providing most of the fruits and vegetables of America to a significant part of the world.”

< / rimshot >

31 posted on 04/06/2015 9:26:11 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (Own it.)
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To: lacrew
"Try to build a large scale dam in California today"

In CA and the US many dams have been built and all the good locations for dams already have dams.

If you build a dam in a lesser location it will have a higher ratio of surface to volume and have a high evaporation loss, require much more land, have higher construction costs, have higher risk of failure, and go dry very quickly because they have low inflow rates.

Having said that, there is room for 2 more dams on the Colorado river which would benefit CA, but both dams would be in the Grand Canyon. In the 50s and 60s the Bureau of Reclamation tried to build one of these dams in the Canyon which was called Bridge Canyon Dam, but public opinion killed it.

32 posted on 04/06/2015 9:34:39 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: rktman

If the weather in California was perfect what would that prove?


33 posted on 04/06/2015 9:37:20 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Maybe they really want what they wanted in Sodom.)
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To: rktman

CA never had the water to support current needs.


34 posted on 04/06/2015 9:37:36 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: SoCal Pubbie

So, what part is coastal plain? The cliffs? The San Joaquin valley? Without the snowfall (regardless of rain) where does the water come from? Is there an aquifer, a true one?

Here’s what wiki says on agri:
“Agriculture is an important sector in California’s economy. Farming-related sales more than quadrupled over the past three decades, from $7.3 billion in 1974 to nearly $31 billion in 2004. This increase has occurred despite a 15 percent decline in acreage devoted to farming during the period, and water supply suffering from chronic instability. Factors contributing to the growth in sales-per-acre include more intensive use of active farmlands and technological improvements in crop production. In 2008, California’s 81,500 farms and ranches generated $36.2 billion products revenue. In 2011, that number grew to $43.5 billion products revenue. According to the USDA in 2011, the three largest California agricultural products by value were milk and cream, shelled almonds, and grapes.”

Yet the 2008 GDP of CA shows agri as only 2% of GDP. Damned real estate is more— guess that figures. As a farmer, the state could be a real garden of eden, except for all the flakes who gravitate there.


35 posted on 04/06/2015 9:40:36 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

LOL! I remember bucket baths in the engine room in the Navy on my first ship.


36 posted on 04/06/2015 9:41:04 AM PDT by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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To: meadsjn

Think Klamath Falls bucket brigade.


37 posted on 04/06/2015 9:42:13 AM PDT by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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To: xzins

I grew up in Northern Cal and lived there from 1976 through 2003.

Growing up, the state weathered through a couple spans of three and four year droughts. It never got as bad as they are experiencing now. California is a desert climate, there are rainshadow effects that favor the coastal areas but do nothing for inland valleys. When it does rain, it can rain for a couple weeks solid, flood, cause mud slides, then not rain again all year.

There are millions more consumers taxing an already scarce resource thanks to tech and crimigrants. It’s man made to be sure, but not from globull warming.

Farmer’s get cut first, but it’s my opinion that cutting back farmer’s water access kills the buildup of moisture available in the valleys for clouds to recharge and dump at the Sierras where it’s held in snow pack.


38 posted on 04/06/2015 9:42:22 AM PDT by xander
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To: Jolla

I attended mass in San Francisco a few years back while visiting my daughter. I enjoyed it very much. A big Catholic church near downtown. Very nice people there.


39 posted on 04/06/2015 9:44:18 AM PDT by tioga
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To: 1Old Pro

If there isn’t any snow in the Sierra’s, not much to melt for the fruits and nuts. And believe me, there isn’t much snow in the Sierras this winter. But there is a possibility that we may get some tomorrow. Hopefully most of it will flow in to Nevada when it melts.


40 posted on 04/06/2015 9:45:35 AM PDT by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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