Posted on 04/05/2015 12:00:01 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
The drought in California is getting a lot worse. As you read this, snowpack levels in the Sierra Nevada mountains are the lowest that have ever been recorded. That means that there won’t be much water for California farmers and California cities once again this year. To make up the difference in recent years, water has been pumped out of the ground like crazy. In fact, California has been losing more than 12 million acre-feet of groundwater a year since 2011, and wells all over the state are going dry. Once the groundwater is all gone, what are people going to do?
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From what I understand San Fran (which runs the California government) has exempted themselves from a lot of the water restrictions imposed on the rest of the state.
this is good to hear. We are in the Northwest and waned to get a second home either in Carlsbad or Rancho Mirage but this whole water issue has made me think Florida would be a better bet.
I’ve been told the golf courses in the desert use recycled water but not sure how long that will be viable.
“This was not a problem before all the illegals started coming...”
And large numbers of them who presently work in agriculture will be moving elsewhere when that work “dries up.” And going home will probably NOT be their first choice. I’m just hoping that they manage to completely bankrupt the state before they go, because only when we get rid if the RATS will we have any chance of rebuilding this once proud state.
The problem with the drought is that it isn’t universal. I was just up to Lake Hennessey, the City of Napa’s water supply. It is full to the brim, and it’s a very big lake! The sprinkler systems in the vinyard are running unabated, and no one in the restaurants asks you whether or not you’d like a glass of water. So the Mexican labor here isn’t going to have to leave the vinyards any time soon. BTW, today Napa is 50% HIspanic!
The insane logic of the left, oil for the example.
Oil comes out of the ground, but if Americans pick it up,
then drop it, that's polluting. But it was under the ground first?
Yea, gravity has a way of dealing with that. But in CA oil is oozing up.
Mexico moved to them, so why not
The issue is running out of water. It took 14 years to get past the administrative and then redundant challenges and the private company sck with it. Now they will move to recoup as they can.
I haven’t seen that figure but they have no competition and there is no other plant nearby.
I don’t know how the costs will shake out in the future.
OI you have abetter solution except everyone moving out, I’d be glad to hear it.
Desal water is very cost effective for household use. It is agriculture where economics works against it. But even there, modern agronomic techniques such a CO2 enhancement, greenhouses, hydroponics etc, can reduce agricultural water requirements to the point where even using desalinated water can be cost effective for some foods. Probably not for grains, though.
OK, gas turbines then. I wouldn’t worry too much about nuclear, but if water is the issue, I wouldn’t let the power source get in the way of a solution.
Florida and Texas also use desalination, we have about 235 desalination plants, mostly for brackish water.
If you want a second home in California, just do it, there will always be enough water for a residence.
That’s some dubious math there. Here are the numbers: 80% of California water use goes to agriculture. 25% of water goes to just two crops, almonds and alfalfa, most of which are exported. Of the 20% that’s non agricultural, most goes to landscaping and golf courses. So about 8% goes to actual household use—showers, toilets, etc. by any measure, illegals use less than 1% of the water in California in a year.
At some point you guys are going to realize that immigration is destroying America, JFK’s immigration goal was to bring in legal, democrat voting immigrants to replace the American voter, and that is what happened.
About the only difference between the 1,000,000 legal people flooding in and the illegals, is that the legals start voting democrat quicker.
California was destroyed by legal immigration, and a moderate original population.
This last 100 million person population growth that came from foreigners since 1970, is what ended us.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desalination
The water desalination is being used all over the world. I think it will happen in California and other places where possible.
Had no idea that TX and FL use desalination.
You’re right. Just do it. We get so tired of being rained on all winter...although this has been one of the easiest winters I can remember - no snow or ice at all.
I prefer Carlsbad to the desert - especially if it has to look like a desert.
Carlsbad is very nice and the closer to the water you get, the more mild the temperatures.
I don’t know how you like to live or how much income you have, but if you are moderately wealthy and not truly rich, and like geographical diversity, once you get your nice comfortable Carlsbad beach home, you are well centered for adventuring.
Within just 90 minutes or so of Carlsbad, are dirt cheap little rough cabins in the mountains, like at Big Bear, and in the desert like Berrego Springs.
Depending on your income you can either buy a nice little cabin at Big Bear or you can buy a little weekender shack, the same goes for the desert, you can buy something as a little weekend trailer to visit occasionally for hiking and solitude.
Carlsbad is a good location.
I remember that we could sit on the balcony looking at the ocean in Carlsbad, and then drive through sunny Southern California to Big Bear, where suddenly we went from short sleeve sunlight, to dark, snow stormy, 10 degree, even below zero ski weather, and then when we wanted to go shooting, we could drive from the Big Bear cabin to the other side of the mountain, to the flat, hot true and barren California desert within minutes, then back home to the snow storms, and then on Sunday drive back down the mountain into sunny southern California, it was quite a mini vacation for a weekend.
I am not saying that desalinate water is not worth making, I am saying that only when the price is paid for what that water costs will more plants be put in place to collect that amount and then competition and economies of scale can begin to lower it in the future.
I LOVE Carlsbad....and it is the least expensive option for us because we don’t have to keep a second home to get away from the weather like we would with Florida or the desert.
I think the desert is a bad place to put money - especially now. Places there have been for sale for years.
We landed in Big Bear recently - there were few patches of snow and the water issue was quite visible. But still a cute little town.
Hmmm... there an estimated 2.6 million illegals in California. Average person according to USGS using 80 to 100 gallons a day. 2.6 million x 100 = 260 million. That is a quarter of billion gallons of water a day. 260 million x 365 = 94,900 million. You’re right, it was 95 Billion Gallon savings, not trillions (don’t know how I goofed up the math). Still a lot. But don’t forget that you would also save some on farming (a lot less mouths to feed). It would solve 1/4 of the water deficit.
That was what I was saying, once you have your nice, comfortable Carlsbad home, then if you like mini adventures, you can look for some little shack or trailer out in the remote desert, that costs nothing, and use it as a primitive weekend adventure camp. Just as in Big Bear, you can buy a nice cabin if you can afford it with your Carlsbad home, or you can buy some tiny little cabin or trailer, a distance from town, for $20,00.00. http://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/pmf,pf_pt/house,mobile,townhouse_type/82905384_zpid/zesta_sort/34.287148,-116.827497,34.185962,-117.007742_rect/12_zm/
We fly all over...and it would be so easy to go to Santa Barbara or Napa, the desert, Baja...all from our Carlsbad base. Our plane would become our second home.
Most people think you’d have to be crazy to retire in CA but it’s really unexpected how the numbers worked out - for us it would cost less..and I wouldn’t be worrying about the real estate market collapsing so near the ocean.
Thank you for your insight - it has really helped. This has just been a very hard decision to make. It was much easier to pick up and leave when we were in our 20s and we CA for the beautiful Northwest. :-)
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