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7 ARMIES SMASH NAZIS IN DEEP THRUSTS; 1ST PASSES LIMBURG, 3D IS IN FRANKFURT (3/27/45)
Microfilm-New York Times archives, Monterey Public Library | 3/27/45 | Drew Middleton, C.L. Sulzberger, Bruce Rae, Hanson W. Baldwin

Posted on 03/27/2015 4:25:31 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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To: henkster; EternalVigilance; colorado tanker

And don’t forget, Tea Time promptly at 4.


21 posted on 03/27/2015 8:50:44 AM PDT by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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To: henkster; EternalVigilance; colorado tanker

How about that miss the British bombers made on the Hague with 1800 casualties due to “an error in judgment” (page 6 NYT)? Was this an understandable screw up or negligence on the part of British command?


22 posted on 03/27/2015 8:54:44 AM PDT by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Page 12: "VON MODEL REPORTED WOUNDED BY BOMB"

and

Page 12: "VON MODEL REPORTED WOUNDED BY BOMB"

I know, I know, you were just checking to see if we're paying close attention, you were just checking to see if we're paying close attention.

Well, well, some of us are, some of us are.

23 posted on 03/27/2015 9:10:30 AM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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Oops. Some of us aren’t


24 posted on 03/27/2015 9:13:42 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: PapaNew

Considering what the Hague has become, there are probably a few today who wish the British would bomb it again. ;-)


25 posted on 03/27/2015 9:38:27 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance; henkster

Well, we mustn’t fight an untidy war, mustn’t we?


26 posted on 03/27/2015 10:49:45 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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Wow, Patton made huge strides since the last sitmap. He's in Frankfort and has a new bridgehead between Mainz and Remagen. It looks like Hodge's 9th Armored is headed south to link up with Patton and bag another pocketful of Germans.

Patton is still a long way from Hammelburg, though

27 posted on 03/27/2015 1:03:46 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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Patton is still a long way from Hammelburg, though

And that's where he should have been patient in the Hammelburg raid. I know he may have been antsy about the Germans moving the POWs, but look at the map two days from now. The German disintegration will become more pronounced, and the main body of his forces will be much closer to Hammelburg. Given what has happened to the Wehrmacht in the last 30 days, he has to know this isn't a pursuit because there's nothing left to chase. This is a mop up.

Dammit, George, two days. Thats' all you needed to wait...

28 posted on 03/27/2015 1:40:27 PM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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Would it be appropriate to expect that Patton’s errors would likely be due to over-aggressiveness, while Montgomery’s would be because of an excess of caution? In other words, to get the benefits of 3rd Army’s mad dashes, must we live with the occasional over-extension? Or is that an over-simplification?


29 posted on 03/27/2015 4:38:06 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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It’s not an oversimplification. It’s pretty accurate. The problem here with Patton was the motivation for the decision. It was personal, not professional.


30 posted on 03/27/2015 6:55:36 PM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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27 Mar 1945

A German counter attack from Frankfurt, Germany towards Küstrin barely got out of the city.

Meanwhile, US Third Army captured Aschaffenburg, Germany, 40 kilometers to the southeast.


31 posted on 03/27/2015 7:47:10 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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They must not have put out the white flags.

32 posted on 03/27/2015 8:07:33 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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Our guys really knew how to kill people and break things back then.


33 posted on 03/27/2015 8:08:23 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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The problem here with Patton was the motivation for the decision. It was personal, not professional.

I understand and agree, but perhaps a hyper-aggressive commander's motives are likely to be broader (if illegitimate at times) than otherwise. His default was to act. He slapped soldiers, shot his mouth off, verged on insubordination, and undertook ill-advised personal missions.

If I'm Ike or Bradley, knowing that as they did, I'm taking quite a risk employing him. Against a lesser foe, perhaps they wouldn't have; but with stodgy Monty heading the Brits, the Allies needed a charger, with all that entails--even if only to spur Monty to action!

34 posted on 03/27/2015 8:24:49 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: henkster
The Wehrmacht on its last legs, as the Allies close in...


35 posted on 03/27/2015 8:25:09 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

I see a lot of kids in those photos. And some older guys too.


36 posted on 03/27/2015 10:59:20 PM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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And a lot of panzerfausts.


37 posted on 03/28/2015 5:42:07 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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