[SoConPubbie]

"If we must have an enemy at the head of Government, let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his foolish and bad measures." - Alexander Hamilton "We don't intend to turn the Republican Party over to the traitors in the battle just ended. We will have no more of those candidates who are pledged to the same goals as our opposition and who seek our support. Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn’t make any sense at all." -- President Ronald Reagan "A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be. Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice." - Thomas Paine 1792 "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." - Samuel Adams "If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams

[SoConPubbie]

Ted Cruz Ping!

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CRUZ or LOSE!

CRUZ or LOSE!

[research99]

“And Congress has made equally clear from the time of the framing of the Constitution to the current day that, subject to certain residency requirements on the parents, someone born to a U.S. citizen parent

generally becomes

a U.S. citizen without regard to whether the birth takes place in Canada, the Canal Zone, or the continental United States.” Note the apparent disclaimer.

[GraceG]

Cruz’s mom was well over 18 tears old and a citizen past 18 for the 7 required years in order to pass citizenship on.

UNLIKE barry’s mommy...

[GrandJediMasterYoda]

No doubt the Treason party will scream non-stop about this if he runs, probably the RINO party as well so they can nominate some token liberal.

[C19fan]

Someone please insert the “Not This [Four Letter Curse Word] Again” guy.

[Drew68]

Legal experts: Cruz’s Canadian birth won’t keep him out of the Oval Office

His 8th place position in the polls will though.

Cruz needs to make some serious moves if he has ambitions to sit behind that desk. The clock is ticking and he's straggling in the backwater with 4-5% support.

[Cheerio]

Well DUH - it certainly didn't stop Obozo who's own grandmother said he was born in Kenya. The Kenyan newspaper bragged when he won his first election about how the son of Kenyan had made it all the way to the White Hut - goodle it. We all know the forensic experts proved without a doubt the long form BC the WH posted on the internet was a FAKE.

I dare any liberal leftist RAT to challenge Ted Cruz's potential Presidential run. After all John McCain was born outside the country (granted to American citizen parents), and the Senate voted to assure the Americans that he was a legal candidate. This birthright citizenship must be eliminated - the Constitutional Amendment was never intended to have folks traveling to the USA to drop babies - it was only to make sure the freed slaves had a full citizenship portion.

Vitter: “Birth Tourism” is Nuts, Should be Illegal (David Vitter)
2015-03-10

[sten]

hilarious. whatever.

might as well let arnold run. at least he’s run a successful business

[DoodleDawg]

Legal experts: Cruz’s Canadian birth won’t keep him out of the Oval Office

Thank you, Captain Obvious.

[Sherman Logan]

Fascinating.

If Obama was born in HI, as I believe, then Obama meets more of the proposed criteria for NBC than Cruz.

If Obama was born in Canada or British East Africa, as some believe, then his situation is pretty nearly identical to that of Cruz.

Which is interesting, because I suspect a good many of those claiming Obama was not NBC would back off the same complaint against Cruz.

[DiogenesLamp]

Why do people keep bringing up this issue? It serves no other purpose than to generate strife. It also serves no other purpose than to draw attention to the issue.

If people aren't thinking about it, they aren't going to worry about it, but if you keep spreading the question around, people are going to start to ponder it.

We need people pondering issues, and how the Democrats are wrecking our country, not whether he's eligible or not.

[OneWingedShark]

Thought you might be interested in this thread.

[exit82]

What I struggle with, is that Ted Cruz was born the citizen of three countries:

Canada, the land where he was born.

The US, by virtue of his mother’s American citizenship.

Cuba, by virtue of his father’s Cuban citizenship.

How does a person born with triple citizenship equal a natural born citizen, for purposes of Presidential eligibility? How does that square with the addition of the”natural born” wording by John Jay and George Washington to the Constitution to avoid someone without ties to a foreign nation?

If citizen at birth equals natural born by virtue of being born within the boundaries of the US, per the 14th Amendment, Cruz does not even meet that definition.

I struggle with all of this because Cruz is about the brightest shining light we have seen on the national scene since Reagan and Palin. Where he is right now is where we need him.

But if we are having this debate on FR, you can bet the Dims and the Leftists will bring the same questions to the fore should he declare.

I have the same issues with Rubio and Jindal. Neither had parents who were US citizens at the time of their birth. Thus they were born with dual citizenship, and are citizens by the Fourteenth Amendment. John Bingham, who wrote the 14th Amendment, never equated a person born of foreign parents but born here to be natural born.

Neither did the Wong decision equate the two. Citizen at birth does not equal “natural born” citizen in the Wong case.

It is hard to admit, but Barack Obama, unless proven to be otherwise(c’mon Sheriff Joe) has more of a claim than Cruz to be eligible because he was born in the US, and has an American mother. Cruz just has an American mother.

At CPAC, when talking with Sean Hannity, Cruz was very careful to say he was born in Canada to a mother who was an American citizen, and the requirement for President was to be natural born. He did not say he WAS natural born.

When I grew up, we were taught that natural born meant born in the US of citizen parents (plural). As the child of an American father and a non-American citizen mother, I understood I was not eligible to be President, though being a Senator and a Congressman was fine.

From reading these threads over the years, many others were taught the same thing.

It wasn’t until 2008 that all that got turned on its head in order for Obama to be acceptable.

I can only hope other documentation is found as to what the Founders meant by “natural born” at the time the phrase was used.

The issue must be squared away once and for all.

[Dajjal]

ineligibility bump

[BerryDingle]

bfl