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1 posted on 03/08/2015 6:45:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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I think Cruz has predictably done the right thing.

There is no really intellectually consistent way to defend Ethanol.

It is ridiculous to raise grocery prices for Americans so we can create a less efficient fuel source out of corn.

I am really pleased he had the courage to do this. I think it will play well and it is a first hard step to developing an intellectually consistent strategy for conservatives that can win.


2 posted on 03/08/2015 6:50:10 PM PDT by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent / Cruz 2016)
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I agree with Cruz’s position on this. Plus, in the overall picture, it’s a minor issue. So, if you’re going to be positioned as a market conservative, it’s a good issue to establish oneself with. Not much to lose and a differentiating position.


3 posted on 03/08/2015 6:50:48 PM PDT by johniegrad
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America could use some unvarnished truth, ‘fairness’ that is actually fair, and a little consistent honesty.


4 posted on 03/08/2015 6:51:31 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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Iowa has built a corn mountain and people are afraid that their ethanol con job will be figured out.


5 posted on 03/08/2015 6:53:11 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (It is not heaven, it is Iowa. Everyone gets a "Corn Check")
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Ted Cruz for President in 2016.


6 posted on 03/08/2015 6:54:41 PM PDT by EvilCapitalist (It's better to die free than live as a slave)
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Having Iowa as our kickoff game is a really bad idea, tradition or not.
They were +6 for Baraq in 2012.

We need to adopt a system that front loads states that vote Republican in POTUS elections. No blue wall states in the first 10 and maybe first 20.


7 posted on 03/08/2015 6:57:33 PM PDT by nascarnation (Impeach, convict, deport)
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I read earlier today that Cruz’s honest and straight forward talk was well received by the Iowa audience.


8 posted on 03/08/2015 6:57:39 PM PDT by Mother Mary
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Cruz is the ONE that sounded conservative re Iowa corn and the extortion of American gasoline consumers.


10 posted on 03/08/2015 7:05:05 PM PDT by arthurus (it's true!)
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Bush won’t really “win
“ the nomination but he will get the nomination. It is his turn. That’s how Republicans do it.


11 posted on 03/08/2015 7:07:14 PM PDT by arthurus (it's true!)
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How many times is this "Walker supports ethanol!" crap is going to get posted?

He clearly said the subsidies should be phased out over time.

Yet the beltway conservative media and GOP insiders are promoting this lie to split the conservative base and grease the skids for Jebbers.

12 posted on 03/08/2015 7:07:26 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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Good for Cruz. Not sure what that’s going to do in Iowa, but Iowa ain’t what it used to be either.

Walker I don’t trust to begin with, and pandering makes it worse.

My two cents.


14 posted on 03/08/2015 7:12:15 PM PDT by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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You betcha.

Walker-Cruz 2016

No split there because I do not believe Cruz supporters would walk away from that.

Here is what the Cruz and Walker supporters are smart enough to see...

That would take care of 2016 and 2020.

Then Cruz-xxxxx 2024

That takes care of 2024 and 2028.

Ethanol and the RFS along with bammy don't-care and a long string of socialist communist bs will die the slow and unnatural death they all so richly deserve.

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18 posted on 03/08/2015 7:36:57 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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“Now, legal plunder can be committed in an infinite number of ways. Thus we have an infinite number of plans for organizing it: tariffs, protection, benefits, subsidies, encouragements, progressive taxation, public schools, guaranteed jobs, guaranteed profits, minimum wages, a right to relief, a right to the tools of labor, free credit, and so on, and so on. All these plans as a whole — with their common aim of legal plunder — constitute socialism.”

— Frederic Bastiat, the Law, 1850


19 posted on 03/08/2015 7:44:52 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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I’ll be voting for Cruz, period.


23 posted on 03/08/2015 8:02:54 PM PDT by Gator113 (Cruz, Lee, and Sessions speak for me.... most anyone else is just noise.)
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Good for Cruz!

Personally, I don’t think it will cost him Iowa either. The world needs more food, not more ethanol. Iowa farmers are smart enough to figure that out.


24 posted on 03/08/2015 8:03:00 PM PDT by EternalHope (Something wicked this way comes. Be ready.)
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I have grass-stains on my keyboard from supporting Conservative-principled Ted Cruz.

I am a common-man with the intense desire to campaign for an American leader like Ronald Reagan showed himself to be.

I am a part of the grassroots of America that yearns to be free from the obamanation, from the establishment, from the Chamber of Amnesty, from Satan's grip on America's heart.

I now fight to win, to elect a man like Ted Cruz to save our beaten-down nation.

The Reigniting of the Miracle of America will start when we Conservatives give voice once again to the grassroots movement of politics!

27 posted on 03/08/2015 8:05:33 PM PDT by WIBamian (Cruz for President. Alabama Senator Jeff Sessions for Vice-President. True conservative heroes!)
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THis issue matters to agribusinessmen and farmers. It does not matter to the vast majority of voters, nor to any of those who don’t follow politics (LIVs) who will show up to vote in 2016 based on TV ad soundbites.


29 posted on 03/08/2015 8:19:15 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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there is a case to be made that what voters want is principle rather than pandering.

They want principle until their own ox is being gored. Ted Cruz maybe would rather be right than president, like Henry Clay, but history remembers those who were presidents.

34 posted on 03/08/2015 8:59:23 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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> “It is just as much a given that Senator Ted Cruz is not regarded as likely to win the nomination.”

Iowa is never a predictor. Iowa just doesn’t matter.


36 posted on 03/08/2015 9:08:24 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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Given that recent history tells us that winning Iowa requires a candidate to support the ethanol boondoggle that helps support corn farmers, it’s hard to quarrel with Walker’s decision. Walker needs to win Iowa and he feels he can’t afford to antagonize the farmers and the Ag industry groups that will pour millions into the GOP caucus fight to support candidates that back ethanol and oppose those who don’t. Walker is a man who has taken chances in his political life, taking on the unions and left-wing special interests in Wisconsin and winning fights that made him a conservative folk hero. But he sees no great benefit to playing the same game with Iowa farmers. He played it safe at the Ag Summit.

Walker doesn't play it safe, he plays it smart

Walker is dismantling the Democrat money and muscle machine in WI [unions-university] - I expect that is what he will do if he's elected president.

Watch what a candidate does, not only what he says.

Haven't we heard farmers argue against all the EPA rules, regulations and paper work that was taking all their time [= money]?

Here is ONE example of how Walker loosens their grip.

March 7, 2015 - Farm Bureau, others question Scott Walker's proposed farm research cuts

"Researchers and supporters of a program that helps farmers run cleaner and more efficient operations say they were “stunned” and “blindsided” by Gov. Scott Walker’s proposal to cut a third of the project’s funding.

Discovery Farms, a UW-Extension program that dates to 2001, applies science from a “plows-on” level, evaluates and monitors efforts by state farmers to control runoff, calibrate fertilizer use and employ techniques to conserve land and water.

It has a $750,000 budget, of which $248,000 would be cut in the governor’s proposed state budget.

UW-Extension officials noted the loss affects longstanding projects and the ability of the small program to leverage crucial additional grants and funds.

“We would have a 1.2-employee reduction of staff and we would pull back some of our sampling efforts, water quality analysis and a project (set) for Rock County,” said Amber Radatz, project co-director.

The project’s programs include monitoring 20 state farms and educating thousands of farmers on conservation strategies.

“This was a big surprise to our agency partners as well as our partners in farm groups and in UW-Extension,” she said. “We never had an inkling.”

The $248,000 comes from a surcharge on farm chemical sales that would be discontinued."....

47 posted on 03/09/2015 4:36:37 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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